From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04611396D0 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:10:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 202281FC00F; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF525E090A for ; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:10:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA8493416A9; Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1502352604.1554.4.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New package neomutt From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:10:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20170810075443.GR1321@gentoo.org> References: <20170731071119.jccco5q4kd3fs4xs@rubberducky.suse.de> <20170810045857.e6qrvnimteopxgev@rubberducky.suse.de> <1502350830.1554.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170810075443.GR1321@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ZOMf/H1eviAvwb5Mib6l" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 8b9c52d6-56d5-4e2b-8216-88b53b9d7fe5 X-Archives-Hash: fb30d0cc287a906bbeeac3a4c4c6f6fd --=-ZOMf/H1eviAvwb5Mib6l Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On czw, 2017-08-10 at 09:54 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 10-08-2017 09:40:30 +0200, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > On czw, 2017-08-10 at 06:58 +0200, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 09:11:19AM +0200, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > >=20 > > > > I would like to add neomutt to the tree. This new package is meant = as=20 > > > > an alternative and not a replacement of the existing mutt package. > > >=20 > > > Thanks for all of the great suggestions and feedback! > > >=20 > > > This is round two. I have update the ebuild with all your=20 > > > suggestions. I have also added support for eselecting between mutt= =20 > > > and neomutt. Before the eselect ebuild can land though, we need to= =20 > > > rename the mutt binary so that the managed link can be called=20 > > > mutt. > >=20 > > What for? How many people are exactly in the dire need of having both > > installed simultaneously and switching between them? If you really can'= t > > learn to type the new command, add IUSE=3Dsymlink blocking original mut= t > > and be done with it. Don't add more unowned files to /usr by another > > poorly written eselect module. >=20 > Be nice! No need to be bitchy here (and in the rest of your review). > Nicolas is just trying. >=20 > Me, as maintainer of Mutt, thought it was a good idea, because it allows > people to easily have both installed at the same time, which in this > interesting time for both projects is not a weird thing to have. I don't see how eselect helps that. People can just run neomutt by typing... neomutt, right? It works without the symlink, right? > If there is a policy/move to get rid of eselect, then sorry, I am not > aware of that. I can live with a symlink USE-flag. It doesn't seem > very elegant to me, but it would work for this scenario. >=20 The move is against orphaned files in /usr that are randomly changed by runtime tools rather than the package manager. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-ZOMf/H1eviAvwb5Mib6l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKmBAABCgCQFiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAlmMFN1fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUSHG1nb3JueUBn ZW50b28ub3JnAAoJELB6GurvtEZOkvkP/0oicbxOUavf48biWbRQxTsRvuIp/PfV KJrE1nTuW8Nm8/Re9vS0ZPDL9fQ/98oKLWIqTnJQdsSHtYlALbX+4eusaVmvWXzx s1afqs4CwyNlwlTc6gp7U17G8ruMXOfvLXHp4KFnEOcS49JJDtSN5PQEeBgo431v 29j0OR7IUr/kvQhUa0+P3jIj4qMOfek2uDZ2r2ZL/fkAvGv5bA0FrBlGGqlpLk4G 8LwhJRT7MdczchCnLNK31OgicesXCW3GzKCltwgyu6OI5ur6HMa89MfyU5Kx8G44 lcK4V0LUj2L6oS9kUmUMd6CYteWtomQ3neL0ndaTvw97Zhx/x+jLYQ8Fq9lAyrkP nyyn1n/KYB8dG+1DdGzPJULTc9Hayele+uPqNJ7YQmkbkSK5GjtHePdPbJKJKxxc 7l8xUmAJeYCMWdw7f6EkVXAIPWNQtV27ypwCAJCGnTeHwylvSnJljgVmVFzDD6GQ lDFdqZm7TDmmDUma1cjMDPrGkYOS3pD06D9RxeW4QDvSpZEGTnp05Yba8TWjzxnB PY9DNcZjBgWu+uBsNtyGphncevO7cVwRJj1t7ePdmss0XCRf/fn+/K8I4jJrx5tf JymGsLdrwzNh9OVgqRNKJ9Pvu9kL5t7au9vlA5RqW2mVJqv9vh5qoxgQxyDyB1cc bXRp6vYB8rxC =LkdL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ZOMf/H1eviAvwb5Mib6l--