[gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Pacho Ramos]

sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions where having
important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of issues. Then,
either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we will need
to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)

Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Mart Raudsepp]

Ühel kenal päeval, K, 26.07.2017 kell 11:56, kirjutas Pacho Ramos:
> sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> where having
> important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> issues. Then,
> either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> we will need
> to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)

I wasn't aware it had issues or lacked a maintainer.

I hope this call will find a dedicated maintainer; if not, I will pick
this up later. But I do hope it finds someone else, as my plates are
rather full.

I don't use it yet because then I wouldn't be able to test fixes or
write fixes to bug 613222 as plymouth would workaround this. After that
bug is fixed, I plan to use plymouth together with dracut+disk
encryption, etc.

So if no-one steps up in the meantime, please don't remove the work
already there (I also know people that use it successfully as-is). But
I hope someone else does step up, please!


Mart

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lucas Ramage]

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I am not yet an official developer but I am interested in assisting in
maintaining this.

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017, 6:04 AM Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote:

> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 26.07.2017 kell 11:56, kirjutas Pacho Ramos:
> > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> > where having
> > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> > issues. Then,
> > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> > we will need
> > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
>
> I wasn't aware it had issues or lacked a maintainer.
>
> I hope this call will find a dedicated maintainer; if not, I will pick
> this up later. But I do hope it finds someone else, as my plates are
> rather full.
>
> I don't use it yet because then I wouldn't be able to test fixes or
> write fixes to bug 613222 as plymouth would workaround this. After that
> bug is fixed, I plan to use plymouth together with dracut+disk
> encryption, etc.
>
> So if no-one steps up in the meantime, please don't remove the work
> already there (I also know people that use it successfully as-is). But
> I hope someone else does step up, please!
>
>
> Mart
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Pacho Ramos]

El mié, 26-07-2017 a las 13:46 +0000, Lucas Ramage escribió:
> I am not yet an official developer but I am interested in assisting in
> maintaining this.
> 

Then, please take a look on:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Proxy_Maintainers

In summary, you will need to open a bug asking proxy-maint to set you as
maintainer and, for fixing bugs, usually sending github PR is the preferred
method

Thanks

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Mart Raudsepp]

On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> where having
> important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> issues. Then,
> either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> we will need
> to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)

So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked.

It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some
stopping issue with sddm.

I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone
interested in the openrc use case, to help out there?


Mart

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lucas Ramage]

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I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal overlay.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017, 10:17 AM Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> > where having
> > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> > issues. Then,
> > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> > we will need
> > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
>
> So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked.
>
> It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some
> stopping issue with sddm.
>
> I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone
> interested in the openrc use case, to help out there?
>
>
> Mart
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Mart Raudsepp]

On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal
> overlay.

Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
-maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc
or otherwise?
sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too
still, right?

I'm not sure about
kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth
kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm
do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too?

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lars Wendler]

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On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote:

>On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal
>> overlay.  
>
>Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
>-maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc
>or otherwise?

Last time I checked, plymouth-0.9.x had a hard requirement for systemd
to work. From what I remember, making 0.9.x versions work with openrc
might become a hard to solve task.

>sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too
>still, right?
>
>I'm not sure about
>kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth
>kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm
>do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too?
>
>

Lars

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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Mart Raudsepp]

On R, 2017-08-04 at 16:43 +0200, Lars Wendler wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2017 17:37:15 +0300 Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> 
> > On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
> > > I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my
> > > personal
> > > overlay.  
> > 
> > Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
> > -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for
> > openrc
> > or otherwise?
> 
> Last time I checked, plymouth-0.9.x had a hard requirement for
> systemd
> to work. From what I remember, making 0.9.x versions work with openrc
> might become a hard to solve task.
> 

If Lucas concludes that, I guess he could maintain a restored 0.8.x,
while there's 0.9.x systemd version maintained by me and hopefully
others (help still welcome, I'm still waiting on bug 613222, but might
be able to convert another machine earlier to plymouth).

Personally I've always connected plymouth with systemd and I'm
surprised some open OpenRC bugs were triggering treecleaning, but yes,
having a maintainer is always good as there are some service bug open
too, but so it is for the countless other maintainer-needed packages we
have around.


Mart

[gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Michael Palimaka]

On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal
>> overlay.
> 
> Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
> -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc
> or otherwise?
> sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too
> still, right?
> 
> I'm not sure about
> kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth
> kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm
> do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too?

These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked
(without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[M. J. Everitt]

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On 05/08/17 03:16, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
>> On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
>>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal
>>> overlay.
>> Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
>> -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc
>> or otherwise?
>> sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too
>> still, right?
>>
>> I'm not sure about
>> kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth
>> kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm
>> do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too?
> These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked
> (without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth.
>
You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers
before wielding their chainsaws ??  Musta missed that policy doc ...


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lucas Ramage]

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I can do that. I'll have some free time this coming week to work on this.

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017, 11:17 PM M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:

> On 05/08/17 03:16, Michael Palimaka wrote:
> > On 08/05/2017 12:37 AM, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> >> On R, 2017-08-04 at 14:23 +0000, Lucas Ramage wrote:
> >>> I am looking into this for openrc. I copied it over to my personal
> >>> overlay.
> >> Ok, how about I mark myself as maintainer then and add you as co
> >> -maintainer for OpenRC aspects, and you can e-mail me fixes for openrc
> >> or otherwise?
> >> sys-boot/plymouth-openrc-plugin is involved in that OpenRC support too
> >> still, right?
> >>
> >> I'm not sure about
> >> kde-plasma/breeze-plymouth
> >> kde-plasma/plymouth-kcm
> >> do you use KDE/Plasma to care for those too?
> > These two are still maintained by KDE team, they just got masked
> > (without asking by the way...) because they depend on plymouth.
> >
> You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers
> before wielding their chainsaws ??  Musta missed that policy doc ...
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Matt Turner]

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:16 PM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@iee.org> wrote:
> You mean to say treecleaners and QA should actually contact maintainers
> before wielding their chainsaws ??  Musta missed that policy doc ...

Can you please stop? You're contributing nothing but noise to this mailing list.

Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Matthew Thode]

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On 17-08-04 17:17:05, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> > where having
> > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> > issues. Then,
> > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> > we will need
> > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
> 
> So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked.
> 
> It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some
> stopping issue with sddm.
> 
> I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone
> interested in the openrc use case, to help out there?
> 
> 
> Mart
> 

I've reverted the p.mask commit and added myself to the metadata for
plymouth (not the openrc plugin).  I've also poked upstream for a new
tag since it's been a while and they are active...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lucas Ramage]

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This may take me some time. The live cd doesn't even seem to use this. And
that plugin is unmaintained so I forked it.

On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:08 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org>
wrote:

> On 17-08-04 17:17:05, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> > On K, 2017-07-26 at 11:56 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> > > where having
> > > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> > > issues. Then,
> > > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or
> > > we will need
> > > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
> >
> > So despite this thread, this got suddenly p.masked.
> >
> > It seems most issues are related to usage with OpenRC, plus some
> > stopping issue with sddm.
> >
> > I can soon look into the systemd aspects, but are there anyone
> > interested in the openrc use case, to help out there?
> >
> >
> > Mart
> >
>
> I've reverted the p.mask commit and added myself to the metadata for
> plymouth (not the openrc plugin).  I've also poked upstream for a new
> tag since it's been a while and they are active...
>
> --
> Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
>



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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Matthew Thode]

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On 17-07-26 11:56:39, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions where having
> important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of issues. Then,
> either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we will need
> to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
> 
> Thanks
> 

I did take sys-boot/plymouth, set up notifications for new releases so
packaging will be somewhat automated.  Also prodded upstream to release
0.9.3 (which they did) and packaged it.  Updated to eapi6 as well,
tested booting on systemd, worksforme.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] sys-boot/plymouth needs major fixes/maintainer

[Lucas Ramage]

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Hello,

I am still working on this. Alpine linux uses Plymouth 9.2 and OpenRC so I
am just going to try to use that. I don't have a ton of spare time so if
anyone else would like to help here is their APKBUILD.

https://git.alpinelinux.org/cgit/aports/tree/community/plymouth/APKBUILD

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 12:12 PM Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org>
wrote:

> On 17-07-26 11:56:39, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > sys-boot/plymouth is orphan for a long time. Its old 0.8.x versions
> where having
> > important bugs that were fixed in 0.9.x, but 0.9 is also plenty of
> issues. Then,
> > either this is adopted by someone able to handle all that issues or we
> will need
> > to finally treeclean (and drop its support for dependant packages)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
> I did take sys-boot/plymouth, set up notifications for new releases so
> packaging will be somewhat automated.  Also prodded upstream to release
> 0.9.3 (which they did) and packaged it.  Updated to eapi6 as well,
> tested booting on systemd, worksforme.
>
> --
> Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
>

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