From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E007139694 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 808DB2741AA; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2AB0727417F for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F51C341B40; Mon, 10 Jul 2017 22:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1499725450.935.3.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Sets vs Meta ebuilds From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:24:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20170710013711.GA8455@waltdnes.org> <79e987ff-dbcc-0fac-3458-df39973d3630@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-cwwof83cMiQOmJhWYsNp" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 884667b6-73da-433f-88b3-7a29e1c91d7c X-Archives-Hash: 4fe3fb776588c01364f9bcf2a4f24a0f --=-cwwof83cMiQOmJhWYsNp Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On pon, 2017-07-10 at 17:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Stop getting lost in the weeds!!!! > You all are making this about -c vs -C. I am not talking about that! >=20 > LET ME CLARIFY.... >=20 > When using -C, portage SHOULD warn for dependencies like it does for > profile and set packages, PERIOD. NOTHING to do with -c vs -C. >=20 > When using -c the output should say in layman's terms, > "Not removing package A because it is a dependency"=20 >=20 > Again nothing to do with -c vs -C. So PLEASE stop with that! >=20 > Two things very straightforward and simple. No clue why others keep > making this about a use -c vs -C. That does NOT change the lack of > warnings or information I am speaking about for BOTH! >=20 > Amazing how things can be off tracked and miss the entire point. I do > not care if you use -c or -C. BOTH lack the same warnings and > information. That is what I am talking about. William, I'm not sure if you're aware of how package managers work but checking reverse dependencies of a package takes significant amount of time. Changing -C to do that would be a serious performance regression. Which would result in users requesting yet another option to disable this. I should also point out that these are Portage implementation specifics that do not belong on this mailing list. The issues with Portage are reported on bugs.gentoo.org, in the 'Portage Development' product. If you have any problems with using Portage, please use the gentoo-user mailing list or any other user-oriented media. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-cwwof83cMiQOmJhWYsNp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKmBAABCgCQFiEEbbsHzE8NrQbqCv5BsHoa6u+0Rk4FAllj/otfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDZE QkIwN0NDNEYwREFEMDZFQTBBRkU0MUIwN0ExQUVBRUZCNDQ2NEUSHG1nb3JueUBn ZW50b28ub3JnAAoJELB6GurvtEZOojUP/j0cQyc6Xn5xcJJx3BQS8EJWYWr5yR3e rKaDoqku/5jnwZdMe3+I6UmRvaSRb5c+cLwFOwixnUZ6u4TCdAI5nDOsmABs+e8R GWdSqRSFN/1vLoTUHubBOC2qdlHa9nZl2v8VUP6+KPIt1rdq6dc8MKyjEHunnWby 7GzJKYD+oHkiUkfPLV78YJjCVTv/2o4xWOqNTocB4YXv9eY3Dy3HBHU6ZbOL4LEg JWXdCbrbf1vgLRFVyZNwp8QVAo4Sc0TZdlnKORn4Wu8980QMyEMLB5MnyMBL/6Wh aANOmOfNePzbpm6lWvXGnQYolMPJbL0HShyH0t2NTAdv/mQDgB9Bah/Zdl4GJ04G 5So7ys1TN0brzmWuuATZbiq2VYcy4XM8lVw7Vqrg5AvsvsMV/OzpvNNEdZIymrmz 1/08uTrPn99L1Qxuwld88Ztbp7e8z//tmEUNEoiT+9ga5KJBZiM7Bha/9c+nkti2 v/052ccbL3yj1QW7euISR9yUlEATGGS/gMU0qrY423TFelqcGonvk+vL3TFxmfiU xoxdFk7nrP40DKO0eoHoRB238E7BBr6J1FiUSrAv8X72elhQDUVZgflRHH6IgLj3 55ENts6FpvM2MVfR3ePlXIFSpu7swMFfq1lb0/f5vJfNR2JU7joyehRqjFQeyTHF C3zd+K4PNWeH =iSy3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-cwwof83cMiQOmJhWYsNp--