From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B588A139694 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A91CE21C29C; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 487F021C266 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A24F5341659; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:56:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1491861364.1661.21.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:56:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <8F38F35E-A4CE-4530-880C-E409E672F253@gentoo.org> <1491844472.1661.1.camel@gentoo.org> <1491847844.1661.10.camel@gentoo.org> <1491850630.3444.2.camel@gentoo.org> <1491853895.3444.4.camel@gentoo.org> <1491855684.3444.6.camel@gentoo.org> <1491856998.1661.14.camel@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8XfiqZmiFRJFwtgOETwL" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 0312225c-4966-46f4-9c6b-a118ad36431e X-Archives-Hash: d90358d0048032c1b4b3bf25afd25c5b --=-8XfiqZmiFRJFwtgOETwL Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On pon, 2017-04-10 at 17:33 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:43:18 +0200 > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > >=20 > > The difference is in quality expectations. We did Python this way to > > make sure things will work, and all obvious breakage will immediately > > be caught. Your alternative does not provide for that. >=20 > Add a new Java version and recompiling packages with it, will also > immediately show breakage if any. Except that the packages don't get recompiled unless you take manual action to recompile them. If you fail at this action, you may end up having broken software because the rebuild has not been complete. >=20 > > > Anything in Gentoo that goes against the status quo gets heavy > > > resistance and thus Gentoo does not change. But continues on with > > > the status quo.... > > > =20 > >=20 > > You are talking *nonsense*. The python-r1 was *against* status quo. We > > changed it. Now you want the old status quo back. >=20 > Regardless of new eclass, the TARGETS remain. Things did not change > from a user perspective. Recently packaging some ebuilds, the > COMPAT/VERSION does not seem to have changed. Despite what ever > changes to the eclass. >=20 TARGETS *have been added*. This is *the new way*. This *did change*. I have no clue why you pretend it's some ancient status quo when the remnants of old code were removed two months ago. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-8XfiqZmiFRJFwtgOETwL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAljr/3VfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQpJ/hAA0c50m1/elPAIQVNJq6lf/0DSUFtNZUpS0Ek3CK3OQpZuO7bcJlM6NP+Y AOZ2BzaOmrqkGPa4vM8FFZmkV+JgIVeExCvGAcLp78k8jFlJCcpXS9iB2ZCM9h9/ QnAx3pPulIWBLHPL0mp4qj2hCRCDIUUgHpGT4z+VPCSiE6i8IIK8Guj5YBrKfjLG /4GyEj5swiNuFlOx9VbAelovBVhhU8YNMseepvU9Nr5Qobc58B6G7H/suKEjW0V6 XfNHG9q97SuHoYHjQH1AIh3P8L6VWQ3ktMVsprmQTrVOmicZKBTf6LSmdOicMDdo GVWmlQtw0rSsz0DjRzWkE1ogdqPj21lKd8p0oAk0hzRSFxCaTQkGoE4wfCvo6WBH gZCL7gPOZ5uZLOQEh22Bx//8bRfJJQQ9lMaBZ384lVxLL2brDZJVgrRYjgVxTh37 5y9KdXQUUJXo8o6vqHIs4su2JbpOn6TVmY7PvvItw7Da5kTBbn/KgiXH5KPHEOUD /VMtngKMXtsMPWySOP2HmDah//rVwqiDzjLaouJjahcg4ueAG/g0N9ydSwI08Ues zHibdyc3WB9h/pJr3jrp3C2nIckXmg6GmDqD9IivAdahJ8qwsAHE9xaeretrfoG9 I5Hf+Qij/Kt/QJxeyD0NL3mKrXWmqjfiurtOeKSoX/X2roWF2Ck= =Ov2K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8XfiqZmiFRJFwtgOETwL--