From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA9DD139694 for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F5CD21C170; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5407DE0BCF for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiot (d202-252.icpnet.pl [109.173.202.252]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C0FE340DF9; Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1491857471.1661.16.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:51:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20170410203822.2cbc440b@snowblower> <5950999.Gx5BNhHzAl@note> Organization: Gentoo Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-hadLZBylgMTJZJKkfQYP" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.6 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: 13ea525a-0748-4529-97d4-f2192612276d X-Archives-Hash: 68319ae120df265b59b850f3b9aa3ee5 --=-hadLZBylgMTJZJKkfQYP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On pon, 2017-04-10 at 16:40 -0400, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 03:29:25 +0700 > "Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" wrote: >=20 > > Am I right in assumption that you arguing about *_TARGETS rework to > > be enabled by default for packages that was not tested on this > > TARGETs with ... hardness of packaging java software?.. >=20 > I think TARGETS should not exist. They do not for Java, Perl, or PHP. I'm sorry but do you even use Gentoo, these days? Like the real Gentoo, not just some little part you've installed years ago and then modified only Java stuff in it? Perl does not use TARGETS. It uses subslots, after it used horrible custom rebuild tool. The latter brought many bug reports of users being hit by random breakage on upgrades, the former just brings *tons* of problems with Portage not being able to deal with Perl upgrades. PHP *uses* PHP_TARGETS. Python used not to use TARGETS. The results were random incompatibilities between packages that were hard to track and random breakage. Now we're past that. But I can understand it's not the Gentoo of your times where user was expected to watch his every step to have his system boot again. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --=-hadLZBylgMTJZJKkfQYP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEXr8g+Zb7PCLMb8pAur8dX/jIEQoFAljr8D9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDVF QkYyMEY5OTZGQjNDMjJDQzZGQ0E0MEJBQkYxRDVGRjhDODExMEEACgkQur8dX/jI EQo5/A/8DozXttvtacYnBHUm83WM9we1SnS8IkQyaHpVlBRJvdedw4YUB9gQ0xVi zZDSw37W9UsR9svgKsKmHxK4Bf6oiw/N5Kg+YcBqpGhkzem48rtGwil82rVP/Fxm I+SFWUqoDvwpU0IW+78448tLA2s80R/1H113o3CYRTvqL10D/UKCajcG+uftSbr9 n4oBpX210Xg+/zQTz7JJ3PG0hfDLGnanur+jEv1+V9woKI/tnQ21nZPGvxkieB7N CtK0hVfQZ8YgbsBkl/eRzXdAegrIGUfC7x4fE6MK03sx/PKo+synUdl0NEhV4ua6 9JIu6XHxcICdl0bS710DWjYc/3gYO4+C9WSwtJo5ThNjir7rwd9ce8K/1l7rkPuf NlOxwgjFp240SSMq7sVqOTBAXe6a4pSqazODRHNKGhV7nnxJ2w9m2lwc6qTBa1wr z+AOr4D1yb36ARFJ5gBNGUqn4+mZNVf0LQ6kBddu08RY2jKHxfhxv8vyfgm3TVN7 CHGY6qCs6U4TrBYXoo6gI3AewyHwcXtAvl7dM0VsaHhHr29q3GT6du911nPZpE05 Ke05HLl2pVWuxsLzRHHrbMAZ/LiLCV+FdOu64GLa94AVm2hxoe3Yv850JZCPc1rU t9svv5QYLh5+Pu1efNuohXafUvOXe14vT/QylohMxOyJM2pOZks= =JroD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hadLZBylgMTJZJKkfQYP--