From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4EAD6139694 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84A5921C234; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3967B21C22E for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thinkpad.fritz.box (cable-static-236-115.teleport.ch [213.188.236.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: soap) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5355341656 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2017 21:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1490305554.1346.3.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-devel/autoconf: Convert from eblits into an eclass, #586424 From: David Seifert To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2017 22:45:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20170323224240.27e19ecd@gentoo.org> References: <20170316093806.31977-1-mgorny@gentoo.org> <20170320083544.GZ24205@vapier> <2240597.YoP4Ev77Vx@porto> <1652433.oqbzW57v8l@porto> <20170323105101.0f622f66@gentoo.org> <1490288005.1534.1.camel@gentoo.org> <20170323195213.406ba9f8@gentoo.org> <1490295612.1534.3.camel@gentoo.org> <20170323212254.1bb17f3d@gentoo.org> <1605d79d-845d-c6eb-93d9-0828a1a663e1@gentoo.org> <20170323224240.27e19ecd@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.22.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 27e8d12e-9339-452b-96cf-ebcefc479d82 X-Archives-Hash: 8ea9197fb093ce1cd83c6dd935755539 On Thu, 2017-03-23 at 22:42 +0100, Alexis Ballier wrote: > On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:20:59 -0400 > Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > On 03/23/2017 04:22 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: > > > > > > Indeed, according to pms.git commit log, the rule was laxed > > > because > > > it was clearly an oversight in EAPI6 [1] and was the standard > > > behavior in previous EAPIs. But in the same commit, an "harmless > > > note" was added that "Ebuilds must not access the directory in > > > global scope." in addition to the "May or may not exist" > > > statement > > > and "Not necessarily present when installing from a binary > > > package" > > > footnote. Please explain how this last addition is not a > > > backwards-breaking change. PMS is not a tool to push your > > > personal > > > agenda of cleaning up the deve^^err tree. > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/pms.git/commit/?id=fa4ac9474048ec7 > > > 5af138fc61f22485c06aac5b7 > > >   > > > > Read that diff again. Before the commit, FILESDIR was invalid in > > global scope (only valid in src_*). This commit makes it valid in > > global scope, but adds the "... don't access it there" clause. > > > > It's not a breaking change because any behavior affected by the > > clause was already illegal before the commit. > > > If we were to stop thinking and follow the rule by the letter: What > are > we waiting for to file bugs for every package having ${FILESDIR} > somewhere in global scope then ? > After all, those are the council approved versions and EAPIs cannot > change. > > Or you can read again the first sentence in the part you quoted. > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=586416