From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EWwmp-0008KZ-Rm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:06:52 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA1E5NBM029145; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:05:23 GMT Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz (gw.top-hosting.cz [81.0.254.91]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA1E1Tkx026964 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:01:29 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16D99B953B for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.top-hosting.cz ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (wac [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11562-03 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from NOTORCOMP (21.217.broadband4.iol.cz [85.71.217.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.top-hosting.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FA869B8453 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:49 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:32:47 +0100 From: Jakub Moc X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1451718903.20051101143247@gentoo.org> To: Ciaran McCreesh Subject: Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting In-Reply-To: <20051101124806.422976f6@snowdrop.home> References: <20051101015125.1cc45eb4@snowdrop.home> <43673CB6.1010907@gentoo.org> <20051101115843.7b2dfeeb@snowdrop.home> <43675C83.4010005@gentoo.org> <20051101122657.2d06d9e5@snowdrop.home> <11710324670.20051101133924@gentoo.org> <20051101124806.422976f6@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="----------BB12C2043852FACE" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new 2.3.2 (20050629) at top-hosting.cz X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.692 tagged_above=-999 required=6 tests=[PRIORITY_NO_NAME=1.185, WEIRD_PORT=0.507] X-Spam-Level: * X-Archives-Salt: 4f5ed7e7-2217-4235-a4ea-1dfb74577c20 X-Archives-Hash: 9065799b4a269ebdb10049f5fbb6066c ------------BB12C2043852FACE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A1.11.2005, 13:48:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | The messages should be displayed when I'm about to upgrade an ebuild > | which has an upgrade note associated with the new version. Sending > | mail via cron might be a nice optional feature for those who want to > | use it. > Not really a good idea, a) because news items aren't tied directly to > ebuilds, and b) because people like advance warning of "when you > upgrade Apache, all hell will break loose!" rather than having it > sprung on them suddenly when they're trying to do a quick update. > Getting the news item in advance allows for planning. What do you mean "they aren't tied to ebuilds"? I don't really understand w= hat this feature should do then, it seems. Once again, what's wrong with reusing emerge --changelog mechanism for displaying this kind of information? I'm not particularly happy with idea of emerge as a newsreader really, IMHO= we should display relevant, vital upgrading information *when relevant*, not to inform users about upgrades that they are not interested in in the least. Example: Don't bother me with mysql-4.1 upgrade instructions, I don't plan = to upgrade to that version and did put it into package.mask. Another example: Don't bother me with upgrade instructions for ~arch ebuilds, I'm running stable. I want to read them when I decide to upgrade, put them into package.keywords and run emerge -uav someebuild/world or when it goes stabl= e. And please, keep the thing simple so that I can be done in reasonable amoun= t of time and does not follow the destiny of einfo/ewarn logging (3 years and counting). --=20 Best regards, Jakub Moc mailto:jakub@gentoo.org GPG signature: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0xCEB= A3D9E Primary key fingerprint: D2D7 933C 9BA1 C95B 2C95 B30F 8717 D5FD CEBA 3D9E ... still no signature ;) ------------BB12C2043852FACE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQFDZ25/hxfV/c66PZ4RAsDRAKDJqdGKY8NFigtJQynZ8yiG+/FZHACdHQKJ aRLCM42bzQiYeTej4TvVIe4= =1Mbo -----END PGP MESSAGE----- ------------BB12C2043852FACE-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list