From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9E61391DB for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21710E0EDD; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35278E0E91 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.223] (70.162.16.95.dynamic.jazztel.es [95.16.162.70]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 177A333FD30; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1406412083.20388.49.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About current ppc/ppc64 status From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: ppc , ppc64 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 00:01:23 +0200 In-Reply-To: <53D40FBF.8060906@gentoo.org> References: <1406316517.20388.22.camel@gentoo.org> <53D3955B.7000007@gentoo.org> <1406375762.20388.38.camel@gentoo.org> <201407261455.51134.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <1406381331.20388.44.camel@gentoo.org> <53D3AF33.2020400@gentoo.org> <1406382285.20388.48.camel@gentoo.org> <53D40FBF.8060906@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: da566496-5cea-459f-b21e-b18a0181bbf1 X-Archives-Hash: 807b366ccf5e7ea6dc40f8e8225aa437 El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 16:29 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: > On 07/26/14 09:44, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 09:37 -0400, Anthony G. Basile escribió: > >> On 07/26/14 09:28, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >>> El sáb, 26-07-2014 a las 14:55 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > >>>> Am Samstag, 26. Juli 2014, 13:56:02 schrieb Pacho Ramos: > >>>> > >>>>> I guess we will need to wait for the next Council to officially decide > >>>>> to do this as it will be a big change for ppc* users :/ (I remember > >>>>> their action was needed for the move to testing of some arches and the > >>>>> "package-by-package" proposal for others) > >>>>> > >>>>> Also, I am not sure if any other arch teams (sparc, ia64?) would want to > >>>>> get this policy too :| (I got ppc* because this concrete case ;)) > >>>> At first this is an arch team decision. No need for the council. > >>>> > >>>> (Given that in this case there is a responsive and addressable arch team...) > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Andreas K. Huettel > >>>> Gentoo Linux developer > >>>> dilfridge@gentoo.org > >>>> http://www.akhuettel.de/ > >>>> > >>> The problem is that blueness looks to be the only member currently > >>> replying :/, I have checked their page and I see no team lead or > >>> similar. Then, I am not sure how to get the ok to proceed or not :| (to > >>> prevent this from getting stalled and we keep trying stabilizing all the > >>> things). > >>> > >>> I remember from older thread (one related with udev stabilization), that > >>> blueness was also the only one replying. > >>> > >>> > >> Yeah, not having a clear lead is a problem. No one wants to just make a > >> big decision on behalf of the team without making sure everyone is on > >> board. Pacho, do you have access to timberdoodle? If so, join both > >> teams and just take the initiative and let any other "claimants" step > >> forward now. BTW, taking the lead doesn't mean doing all the work > >> yourself. I want to see ppc/ppc64 in good shape. I'll be happy to > >> write scripts to do the demoting to ~ etc etc. > >> > > I don't even know about timberdoodle :( > > > > I forwarded the mail to both alias (as I forgot first time), then, > > hopefully they will review it :/ > > > > Will CC them again to this just now with this link to allow all to read > > the full thread: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/92151 > > > > > > > > I think its clear who cares about ppc/ppc64. If there are no > objections, I'll take the lead of those teams and see this plan > through. I'll wait a few days for people to voice concerns. Then I'll > start by generating a list of all stable and testing packages on ppc and > ppc64. I'll post then and then continue the conversation on just the > ppc and ppc64 lists. Don't worry, I won't start dropping to ~ until we > have a concise plan and we're all on board. > OK, please feel free to contact me whenever you want. Usually via mail. I will have restricted internet access during most August but should be ok again in September :)