From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F5713877A for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:36:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04338E15B1; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17804E1589 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.223] (249.135.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.217.135.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ACCA134009D for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 08:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1406277393.20388.5.camel@gentoo.org> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] don't rely on dynamic deps From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:36:33 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20140722235632.2c586b34@gentoo.org> References: <53CD6BED.10603@gentoo.org> <53CD6D1F.3030609@gentoo.org> <20140722235632.2c586b34@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.12.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 68eeeaa9-bea0-4fe5-a389-8a02292c2b27 X-Archives-Hash: 2539030743be9fe8f9f420a02240b142 El mar, 22-07-2014 a las 23:56 +0200, Tom Wijsman escribió: [...] > Useless triggers are the problem; why are the rev bumps needed, why are > dependencies forgotten, ...? Sounds like a developer work flow issue... > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499852 > There are lots of cases of upstream forgetting to update configure checks and changing without noticing the real requirements. For example, moving from gtk+-2.90.0 to gtk+-3.3. Since we don't such old setups, we don't notice a newer gtk+ is needed. Sometimes, a user with a really old stable setup tries to update, find the problem and we need to update the dependency