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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Assigning keyword/stable bugs to arch teams (WAS: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords)
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2014 09:41:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1392540063.18051.95.camel@belkin5> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140216003703.6ceb9116@marga.jer-c2.orkz.net>

El dom, 16-02-2014 a las 00:37 +0100, Jeroen Roovers escribió:
[...]
> > If we want a separate assignee for old stabilizations, what about a
> > separate project that handles this, or maybe we could assign the bugs
> > to m-n or something until the arch teams catch up?
> 
> Again, where is the man power for that? :-)
> 
> It's the maintainers that this problem hurts most, so they could and
> should be fixing it themselves - after a few months of waiting,
> reminding arch teams and gritting your teeth over it, just remove the
> old stable ebuilds[1].
> 
> 
>      jer
> 
> 
> [1] Where possible. If this happens with non-dev, non-experimental
>     architectures and keeping the old ebuilds is a real problem, the
>     architecture's status should be reconsidered. As has been done on
>     this mailing list time and again. If an arch team cannot even be
>     bothered to keep @system up to date, then why bother pretending
>     it's anywhere near "stable"?
> 

I agree with Jeroen here. If the arch teams that are usually a bit
behind are not able to fix the bugs, I doubt we will gain anything
assigning bugs to them. Because of the way testing/stabilization bugs
work, arch teams should always check the bugs with them CCed and, then,
I don't think getting that bugs assigned to them would change much.

Also, keeping the bugs assigned to package maintainers will still allow
them to try to get that pending bugs fixed (or resolved in some way) as
they will take care more about that specific package status. If we get
that bugs assigned to arch teams, they will likely be ignored by both
parts, getting worse.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-02-16  8:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-28 16:33 [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2014-01-28 16:38 ` Alex Xu
2014-01-28 16:54 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-28 17:23 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-01-28 19:21   ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-03  6:25     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-02-03  9:43       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-04 21:03         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-02-05  0:08           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05  0:23             ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05  1:07               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05  1:35                 ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05  1:48                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05  3:15                     ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05  3:28                       ` Matt Turner
2014-02-05  5:41                         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 11:41                           ` Sergey Popov
2014-02-05 11:58                             ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-05 12:58                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 13:07                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-02-06 10:10                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06 13:39                                     ` Duncan
2014-02-05 16:55                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05 21:17                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  4:17                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-02-05 12:05                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 20:18                           ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-05 21:23                             ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05  4:55                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 16:07                         ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05 21:48                           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 22:05                             ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-02-06  0:48                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  1:00                                 ` Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
2014-02-06  1:50                                   ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-06  2:50                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  3:24                                       ` Chris Reffett
2014-02-06  1:51                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  3:04                                     ` Tyler Pohl
2014-02-06  3:12                                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06 18:26                                 ` William Hubbs
2014-02-06 19:50                                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-02-06  2:12                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-06  2:53                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  5:21                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2014-02-06  6:11                                 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06  8:47                                   ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-06 10:03                                     ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-06 10:37                                       ` Peter Stuge
2014-02-05 10:52                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2014-02-05 16:26                         ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-05 21:50                           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-05 22:03                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-02-06  0:57                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-13 21:28             ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J. Long
2014-02-14 18:59               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-15  0:28                 ` Assigning keyword/stable bugs to arch teams (WAS: [gentoo-dev] dropping redundant stable keywords) Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-15 10:41                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-15 13:30                     ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-15 13:43                       ` Pacho Ramos
2014-02-15 15:18                       ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-16  7:41                         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-15 23:05                       ` William Hubbs
2014-02-16  7:23                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16 13:48                         ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 14:22                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-16 14:31                             ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 14:38                               ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-16 14:58                                 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 17:41                                 ` William Hubbs
2014-02-16 17:29                           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-15 22:53                     ` William Hubbs
2014-02-15 23:37                       ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16  1:05                         ` William Hubbs
2014-02-16  8:05                           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16  8:00                         ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16 14:04                           ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 17:48                             ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16  8:41                         ` Pacho Ramos [this message]
2014-02-16 14:03                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-02-16 14:18                             ` Pacho Ramos
2014-02-16 14:46                               ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 14:53                                 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-02-16 15:08                                   ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-16 18:09                                 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16 14:26                             ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-17  1:49                             ` Steev Klimaszewski
2014-02-16 17:58                           ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16 20:50                             ` William Hubbs
2014-02-17 18:46                               ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-17 20:47                                 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-02-17 23:41                                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-16  7:45                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-18 18:31                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: dropping redundant stable keywords Steven J. Long
2014-02-18 21:10                   ` Tom Wijsman
2014-02-18 21:16                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2014-02-18 21:42                       ` Tom Wijsman
2014-01-30  8:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Sergey Popov

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