[gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[Igor]

Hello All,

Thank you for all our feedback!

It's very good that we have all many different views on the same
subject. The nature designed us in a way that some part of us is
to survive in almost any situation. If everyone thought the same
they would make the same decisions and the probability of survival
would decrease. So it's all very natural and I didn't expect it
going easy.

In project like that I can't rush to programming it without
everyone's approval. This part of the project should have been
implemented with the first portage version by it's creator. But as
I'm not this person I'll need the expertise of the whole community.


Let's agree on following - I'll design the system in details on paper.
When it's ready (~ 1.5 months) I'll get back here and share the details.

Then we all review it again everyone could contribute it's own view
and part and help to avoid some design problems if there are.

And then when the final version is ready and there is support and
understanding of everyone and everyone says YES and sees that system
could be helpful - I'll get in running in ~ 1.5 years alone or if
I find some help - faster. I would anyway need this design to
effectively program the soft. It's the first step, no matter if
there is the second.

Do we have an agreement on this one from everyone of the list?

Please vote.

-- 
Best regards,
 Igor                          mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[Jon Portnoy]

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 08:48:30PM +0400, Igor wrote:
> Do we have an agreement on this one from everyone of the list?
> 

Agreement on what, precisely...?

In open source, better implementations usually gain more mindshare.

If you think you can write one (and the project is interesting to you)
go forth and produce code! ;-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[Peter Stuge]

Igor wrote:
> Let's agree on following - I'll design the system in details on paper.
> When it's ready (~ 1.5 months) I'll get back here and share the details.

You might be surprised how little people care about good design.

They choose kindof-working implementation every time.


//Peter

Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[Ian Stakenvicius]

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On 10/01/14 11:48 AM, Igor wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Thank you for all our feedback!
> 
> It's very good that we have all many different views on the same 
> subject. The nature designed us in a way that some part of us is to
> survive in almost any situation. If everyone thought the same they
> would make the same decisions and the probability of survival would
> decrease. So it's all very natural and I didn't expect it going
> easy.
> 
> In project like that I can't rush to programming it without 
> everyone's approval. This part of the project should have been 
> implemented with the first portage version by it's creator. But as 
> I'm not this person I'll need the expertise of the whole
> community.
> 
> 
> Let's agree on following - I'll design the system in details on
> paper. When it's ready (~ 1.5 months) I'll get back here and share
> the details.
> 
> Then we all review it again everyone could contribute it's own
> view and part and help to avoid some design problems if there are.
> 
> And then when the final version is ready and there is support and 
> understanding of everyone and everyone says YES and sees that
> system could be helpful - I'll get in running in ~ 1.5 years alone
> or if I find some help - faster. I would anyway need this design
> to effectively program the soft. It's the first step, no matter if 
> there is the second.
> 
> Do we have an agreement on this one from everyone of the list?
> 
> Please vote.
> 


I think it's great you are looking for (developer) community feedback,
but it probably should be made clear that unless this project is going
to go through official channels (ie, GLEP), it will be an independent
project.  Not that there's anything wrong with this, but it sounds
like there are some assumptions that the design or implementation will
just automatically be integrated.

At this point, it doesn't sound like this project would be anywhere
near ready to go through official channels, so your best bet would
probably be to continue working on it as an independent project.  And
as such, "agreement from everyone" really has no meaning or value in
this context.

Good luck!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS

[Roy Bamford]

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On 2014.01.10 16:48, Igor wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> Thank you for all our feedback!
> 
[snip]
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
>  Igor                          mailto:lanthruster@gmail.com
> 

Igor,

You don't need anyones permission to start an OSS project.
Just do it.  If its useful, it will get used.
Here, you will be met with almost total apathy because the reality is 
that most subscribers to this list won't respond until you have a 
working demo that they can play with. 

<quote>
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win.

Mahatma Gandhi
</quote>

Good luck.

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
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