* [gentoo-dev] About pam herd status
@ 2013-12-09 14:20 Pacho Ramos
2013-12-09 14:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
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From: Pacho Ramos @ 2013-12-09 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev, pam-bugs
Hello
Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have
needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase
and pam_ssh
Thanks for the info :)
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* [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2013-12-09 14:20 [gentoo-dev] About pam herd status Pacho Ramos
@ 2013-12-09 14:21 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-12-09 14:22 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-12-09 21:32 ` Markos Chandras
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From: Diego Elio Pettenò @ 2013-12-09 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: Pacho Ramos; +Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, pam-bugs
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I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it.
I'm still officially pam herd as maintainer of Linux-PAM, pam_ssh I don't
use and care very little about.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hello
>
> Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have
> needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase
> and pam_ssh
>
> Thanks for the info :)
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2013-12-09 14:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
@ 2013-12-09 14:22 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-12-09 21:32 ` Markos Chandras
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From: Andreas K. Huettel @ 2013-12-09 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: Diego Elio Pettenò, Pacho Ramos, pam-bugs
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Am Montag 09 Dezember 2013, 14:21:17 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò:
> I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it.
>
link please?
--
Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer
kde, council
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2013-12-09 14:21 ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-12-09 14:22 ` Andreas K. Huettel
@ 2013-12-09 21:32 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-09 20:20 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Markos Chandras @ 2013-12-09 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 12/09/2013 02:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> I stopped caring about pambase when people decided to break it.
>
> I'm still officially pam herd as maintainer of Linux-PAM, pam_ssh I don't
> use and care very little about.
>
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have
>> needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase
>> and pam_ssh
>>
>> Thanks for the info :)
>>
>>
>
So I guess it's time to call for maintainers or we should consider
merging this herd with another one (base?) to avoid unattended bugs for
a long time.
--
Regards,
Markos Chandras
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2013-12-09 21:32 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2014-01-09 20:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-09 20:22 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-09 20:24 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2014-01-09 20:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Monday 09 December 2013 16:32:09 Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 12/09/2013 02:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have
> >> needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase
> >> and pam_ssh
> >>
> >> Thanks for the info :)
>
> So I guess it's time to call for maintainers or we should consider
> merging this herd with another one (base?) to avoid unattended bugs for
> a long time.
well, the sep herd was kind of by design ... i didn't want it cluttering up
base-system@ and it is super convenient to abdicate all PAM decisions to a
single herd.
-mike
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-09 20:20 ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2014-01-09 20:22 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-09 20:24 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
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From: Markos Chandras @ 2014-01-09 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 01/09/2014 08:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 09 December 2013 16:32:09 Markos Chandras wrote:
>> On 12/09/2013 02:21 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> Is pam team still active? I wonder about this as, recently, we have
>>>> needed to go ahead and fix some bugs related, for example, with pambase
>>>> and pam_ssh
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the info :)
>>
>> So I guess it's time to call for maintainers or we should consider
>> merging this herd with another one (base?) to avoid unattended bugs for
>> a long time.
>
> well, the sep herd was kind of by design ... i didn't want it cluttering up
> base-system@ and it is super convenient to abdicate all PAM decisions to a
> single herd.
> -mike
>
I understand that but if nobody is tracking pam@ then what's the point?
--
Regards,
Markos Chandras
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-09 20:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-09 20:22 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2014-01-09 20:24 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2014-01-10 22:20 ` Mike Frysinger
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From: Diego Elio Pettenò @ 2014-01-09 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
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On 9 January 2014 20:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> well, the sep herd was kind of by design ... i didn't want it cluttering up
> base-system@ and it is super convenient to abdicate all PAM decisions to a
> single herd.
Yeah the problem has been that the herd has been fundamentally a single
person, and when said single person asked for the rest of the users
of/providers for PAM to accentrate on a single package, they ignored/worked
around problems instead of reporting/discussing them.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-09 20:24 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
@ 2014-01-10 22:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2014-01-10 23:14 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
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From: Mike Frysinger @ 2014-01-10 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
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On Thursday 09 January 2014 15:24:00 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 9 January 2014 20:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > well, the sep herd was kind of by design ... i didn't want it cluttering
> > up base-system@ and it is super convenient to abdicate all PAM decisions
> > to a single herd.
>
> Yeah the problem has been that the herd has been fundamentally a single
> person, and when said single person asked for the rest of the users
> of/providers for PAM to accentrate on a single package, they ignored/worked
> around problems instead of reporting/discussing them.
how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it wrong
wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by.
-mike
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-10 22:20 ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2014-01-10 23:14 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2014-01-11 10:57 ` Markos Chandras
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From: Diego Elio Pettenò @ 2014-01-10 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
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On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it
> wrong
> wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by.
>
I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorry I didn't make it clear.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-10 23:14 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
@ 2014-01-11 10:57 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-11 11:01 ` Pacho Ramos
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From: Markos Chandras @ 2014-01-11 10:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 01/10/2014 11:14 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it
>> wrong
>> wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by.
>>
>
> I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorry I didn't make it clear.
>
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>
I only suggested that as part of our usual 'drop-dead-teams' process in
the retirement team. So in this case, either a 'parent' herd needs to
inherit the packages or simply drop them to maintainer-needed
--
Regards,
Markos Chandras
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-11 10:57 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2014-01-11 11:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2014-01-11 11:07 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
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From: Pacho Ramos @ 2014-01-11 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
El sáb, 11-01-2014 a las 10:57 +0000, Markos Chandras escribió:
> On 01/10/2014 11:14 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people doing it
> >> wrong
> >> wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by.
> >>
> >
> > I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorry I didn't make it clear.
> >
> >
> > Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> > flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
> >
> I only suggested that as part of our usual 'drop-dead-teams' process in
> the retirement team. So in this case, either a 'parent' herd needs to
> inherit the packages or simply drop them to maintainer-needed
>
sys-auth/pam-pgsql
sys-auth/pam_dotfile
sys-auth/pam_krb5
sys-auth/pam_ldap
sys-auth/pam_passwdqc
sys-auth/pam_ssh
sys-auth/pam_ssh_agent_auth
sys-auth/pambase
sys-libs/pam
virtual/pam
This are the packages under pam team management, would be nice to know
if there is somebody maintaining each of them or we need new maintainer
for any
Thanks
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-11 11:01 ` Pacho Ramos
@ 2014-01-11 11:07 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2014-01-11 11:15 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-11 11:15 ` Pacho Ramos
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From: Diego Elio Pettenò @ 2014-01-11 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
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If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick
maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care about
them as much.
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
On 11 January 2014 11:01, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> El sáb, 11-01-2014 a las 10:57 +0000, Markos Chandras escribió:
> > On 01/10/2014 11:14 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > > On 10 January 2014 22:20, Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> how would moving it to base-system make any difference ? people
> doing it
> > >> wrong
> > >> wouldn't really care which herd pam itself is owned by.
> > >>
> > >
> > > I'm not saying it makes a difference, sorry I didn't make it clear.
> > >
> > >
> > > Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> > > flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
> > >
> > I only suggested that as part of our usual 'drop-dead-teams' process in
> > the retirement team. So in this case, either a 'parent' herd needs to
> > inherit the packages or simply drop them to maintainer-needed
> >
> sys-auth/pam-pgsql
> sys-auth/pam_dotfile
> sys-auth/pam_krb5
> sys-auth/pam_ldap
> sys-auth/pam_passwdqc
> sys-auth/pam_ssh
> sys-auth/pam_ssh_agent_auth
> sys-auth/pambase
> sys-libs/pam
> virtual/pam
>
> This are the packages under pam team management, would be nice to know
> if there is somebody maintaining each of them or we need new maintainer
> for any
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-11 11:07 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
@ 2014-01-11 11:15 ` Markos Chandras
2014-01-11 11:15 ` Pacho Ramos
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From: Markos Chandras @ 2014-01-11 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
On 01/11/2014 11:07 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick
> maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care about
> them as much.
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>
Fine by me. We will drop the rest to m-n
--
Regards,
Markos Chandras
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About pam herd status
2014-01-11 11:07 ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2014-01-11 11:15 ` Markos Chandras
@ 2014-01-11 11:15 ` Pacho Ramos
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From: Pacho Ramos @ 2014-01-11 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev
El sáb, 11-01-2014 a las 11:07 +0000, Diego Elio Pettenò escribió:
> If we limit it to the virtual, pam and pambase, I'm happy to stick
> maintaining them, the others I don't use, which is why I don't care
> about them as much.
>
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>
[...]
> sys-auth/pam-pgsql
> sys-auth/pam_dotfile
> sys-auth/pam_krb5
> sys-auth/pam_ldap
> sys-auth/pam_passwdqc
> sys-auth/pam_ssh
> sys-auth/pam_ssh_agent_auth
[...]
OK, then, I would move this to maintainer-needed if nobody takes them in
a week or so
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