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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:22:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1384590157.1308.13.camel@belkin5> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131115233934.7142bb04@gentoo.org>

El vie, 15-11-2013 a las 23:39 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> Dnia 2013-11-15, o godz. 14:53:00
> Ben de Groot <yngwin@gentoo.org> napisał(a):
> 
> > As I see it now, with respect to multilib, we have three competing
> > solutions, but not a clear direction which way we want to go as a
> > distro:
> > 
> > 1: emul-* packages

This is the current option but has important drawbacks:
- Each emul set contains a ton of packages, then, when a security issue
arises in one of them, we need to release a new emul-linux-x86-...
- It's built from stable tree, it can then cause inconsistencies when
people run native lib from testing (I remember pulseaudio case)
- If we would like to really follow stabilized packages, we would nearly
need to generate a new set every week because likely some of the
contained packages will be stabilized on x86 so often.
- As they are a big set of packages, people need to install a lot of
stuff they don't really need

In summary -> they are completely unflexible, with the problems it cause

> > 2: multilib-portage

I think this has been discussed multiple times, if I don't misremember,
PMS team is not willing to accept it until the specification is done...
and we are waiting for that for years probably because it includes a lot
of changes (well, Tommy will know much more about this)

> > 3: multilib.eclass
> > 

This is my preferred solution 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-11-16  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-13 10:28 [gentoo-dev] Please consider removing use.stable.mask and package.use.stable.mask Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 11:39 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 13:25   ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 13:37     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 14:00       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:30       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-13 14:55         ` Thomas Kahle
2013-11-13 15:16           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 18:56             ` Daniel Campbell
2013-11-13 20:21               ` James Potts
2013-11-13 21:22                 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-17 10:20                   ` Sergey Popov
2013-11-13 13:56     ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 14:38       ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:04   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 14:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2013-11-13 15:02   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-13 15:58     ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 23:49     ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14  5:13       ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 12:03         ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:13           ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:30             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:45               ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 19:07             ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-14 19:35               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-14 23:40                 ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 17:51           ` Michał Górny
2013-11-14 23:38             ` Patrick Lauer
2013-11-14 12:21         ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 12:32           ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 12:57             ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 15:12               ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-14 16:38                 ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-14 17:32                   ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15  6:53                     ` Ben de Groot
2013-11-15  7:13                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2013-11-15 11:08                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2013-11-15 14:30                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 15:30                             ` Duncan
2013-11-15 12:14                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2013-11-15 14:27                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 13:33                       ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15 22:39                       ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 23:06                         ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-16  8:22                         ` Pacho Ramos [this message]
2013-11-16 10:57                           ` Thomas Sachau
2013-11-17 16:09                             ` hasufell
2013-11-17 16:35                               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 16:52                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2013-11-16 12:39                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-16 12:46                             ` Michał Górny
2013-11-16 20:24                             ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 21:52                               ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17  0:53                                 ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-16 22:52                             ` Duncan
2013-11-13 15:23   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 15:41     ` Mike Gilbert
2013-11-14  0:11       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-13 15:42     ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-13 16:05       ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:05         ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2013-11-13 15:44     ` Michał Górny
2013-11-13 16:52       ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-13 17:03       ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 17:49         ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-13 18:24           ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-13 18:50             ` Rich Freeman
2013-11-15  4:56 ` [gentoo-dev] " Matt Turner
2013-11-15  5:23   ` Kent Fredric
2013-11-15 15:54   ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 16:05     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 20:18       ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Vaeth
2013-11-15 20:22         ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-16 12:46         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 17:04           ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 17:15             ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:46               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:32                 ` hasufell
2013-11-17 20:16                   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 17:24             ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 19:10               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:57                 ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-17 18:56             ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-17 19:18               ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 19:27                 ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 19:51                   ` Martin Vaeth
2013-11-17 21:41                     ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:50         ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-16 12:58           ` Michał Górny
2013-11-17 18:13             ` Andreas K. Huettel
2013-11-17 18:18               ` Michał Górny
2013-11-15 19:24   ` [gentoo-dev] " Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:24   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 19:31     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2013-11-15 19:36     ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:00   ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:10     ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 20:24       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 20:25     ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 20:53       ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:09         ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 21:27           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:21         ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 21:38           ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:45             ` Matt Turner
2013-11-15 22:08               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 21:57             ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:13               ` Tom Wijsman
2013-11-15 22:26                 ` Peter Stuge
2013-11-15 22:58                   ` Tom Wijsman

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