Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnome Stabilization 3.6 or 3.8

[Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>]

El mié, 07-08-2013 a las 14:45 +0200, Michael Weber escribió:
> Greetings,
> 
> Gnome Herd decided to target stablilization of 3.8 [1] which requires
> systemd.
> 
> What are the reasons to stable 3.8 and not 3.6, a version w/o this
> restriction, enabling all non systemd users to profit from this
> eye-candy as well.
> 
> I raise the freedom of choice card here. And deliberately choosing an
> uncooperative version doesn't shine a good light.
> 
> Facts, pls!
> 
>    Michael
> 
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478252

Gnome 3.6 is not maintained by upstream now -> bugs are being fixed in
3.8 and 3.9. Also, stabilizing 3.6 will point Gnome2 users to this two
options:
- Run gnome-shell
- Run 3.6 fallback mode -> 3.6 fallback mode is using old gnome-panel
stuff that was dropped in 3.8 because it wasn't really maintained

They will also be able to run 3.6 with openrc... but that will be the
last version "working" with it, we will hit the same problem again when
we want to stabilize 3.8 (well, 3.10 is going to be released in October,
I think we have been waiting enough)

Also, I think we should stop spending a lot of time trying to keep it
working with openrc, we simply don't have resources to do that at the
moment (even Debian/Ubuntu people are stick with systemd-204 because
they don't have resources to keep logind working without systemd in
newer versions). Now, we are needing to put a lot of effort on trying to
provide unit files and provide systemd related fixes in the tree because
we haven't (in general) pay attention to systemd at all => I think we
should put more efforts on it than trying to work on hacks to prevent
systemd dependency.