Re: [gentoo-dev] Going against co-maintainer's wishes (ref. bug 412697)

["Tiziano Müller" <dev-zero@gentoo.org>]

Am Samstag, den 25.05.2013, 15:53 -0400 schrieb Anthony G. Basile:
> On 05/25/2013 02:13 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
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> > On 05/25/2013 05:14 PM, Ben de Groot wrote:
> >> But if a co-maintainer pushes through a change that I oppose, then
> >> working together becomes quite difficult. In this case I opted to
> >> give up maintainership.
> >>
> > Ben,
> >
> > We've been working together, in the same team(s), for more than 4
> > years and we never had a single problem in co-maintaining packages. I
> > would never expected you to make so much noise because I committed a
> > file (yes a file, *not* a patch) that changes absolutely *nothing* to
> > existing users but it helps all those users who want to use systemd.
> >
> > I am very disappointed and confused.
> >
> > You should have known me better by now.
> >
> > - -- 
> > Regards,
> > Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
> > http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang
> >
> 
> We are moving too quickly on bug #448882 ([Tracker] packages not 
> providing systemd units).  We should come to better consensus on systemd 
> integration and we were getting there with the idea of INSTALL_MASK. I 
> don't know that it is a working solution yet.  I have to oppose adding 
> unit files unless we have a way to opt out for reasons I gave earlier, 
> regarding embedded systems where one needs to conserve space 
> aggressively.  And we may have found a way to do so without cluttering 
> ebuilds with USE flags.

Even though I don't care about a couple of files more on my FS I would
prefer to find a solution with functions provided by PMS, not portage
alone.

> 
> Can I ask the systemd people to design a working solution for opting 
> out?  I can't support this initiative without such a solution and I 
> would be happy to work with the systemd people to reach it, ie I'll test.
> 

Maybe we have to find a more generic solution for this, because there is
bug #235944 [1] which request extra config snippets for rsyslog added to
various packages. Or is this something different? If yes, how?

Best,
Tiziano


[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=235944