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Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Making systemd more accessible to "normal" users
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El mié, 15-05-2013 a las 20:28 -0500, Matthew Thode escribió:
> On 05/15/13 19:27, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:16:01PM +0800, Ben de Groot wrote:
> >> We don't control upstreams, but we still have choices. At this point I
> >> only see Gnome and udev upstreams who are forcing their users to use
> >> systemd. (There may be other projects too that I'm not aware of.)
> > 
> > Udev doesn't force anything. In fact upstream makes it
> > clear that udev can be run without systemd.
> > 
> > William
> > 
> so then we should decouple logind from udev downstream (packaging) :D
> 

That is being handled in:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=461940

but help is needed on that :|