From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A47A61381F3 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:31:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E021BE09CE; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:31:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB594E09BA for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:31:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (117.Red-88-11-52.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [88.11.52.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4263B33DC31 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 09:31:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <1365931865.6940.5.camel@localhost> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing? From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:31:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20130414022418.45e1ed85@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> References: <20130412234105.407563f4@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130413230905.76013d0e@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> <20130414085539.7501576a@TOMWIJ-GENTOO> <20130414022418.45e1ed85@caribou.gateway.2wire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: ad46683d-c33f-4093-be8e-90135d164542 X-Archives-Hash: f243ea1d7123900a6f01bbe31ca093fd El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 02:24 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió: > On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200 > Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600 > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the > > > > Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges > > > > the package. Fixes bug #457598. > > > > > > Call me crazy, but upgrade guides seem like something you might want > > > to tell the user about during an upgrade. > > > > True, I was wondering if there is a way to show it on their first > > upgrade instead; most users would indeed not be able or forget to > > bookmark this during their handbook install. > > > > Therefore, I won't commit this patch. > > > > I wonder if Pacho can adapt the eclass to allow us to do this on the > > first upgrade, I have explicitly put him in CC so he can consider that. > > Perhaps he can also explain why he wanted to see this change happen. > > > > I thought the goal of this eclass is to get rid of repeating messages > > that are not that important from the elog. After you have installed the > > kernel twice you should be able to do it a third time. People that > > really still need the link have it either bookmarked or can look into > > that file, another concern here is that nothing mentions its existence. > > The user would have to spot it in the list of installed files, strange. > > > > If I misunderstood the goal of this eclass, sorry, it's not documented. > > I thought people were against these kind of repeating messages in elog. > > > > - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-reference/readme.gentoo.eclass > > > > - Bug in discussion: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457598 > > Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the > first install is completely asinine. What exactly is the benefit? Were users > complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to hide important > messages in random places? > When you get tons of messages in summary.log, there are times that is easier to ignore important messages over all the less important ones