Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCHES] kernel-2.eclass: Various changes requested by users. + [STABLEREQ?] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.8.7: Any objections against stabilizing?

[Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>]

El dom, 14-04-2013 a las 02:24 -0600, Ryan Hill escribió:
> On Sun, 14 Apr 2013 08:55:39 +0200
> Tom Wijsman <TomWij@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:09:05 -0600
> > Ryan Hill <dirtyepic@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > - Make use of readme.gentoo.eclass to make the user aware of the
> > > >   Gentoo Linux Kernel Upgrade Guide only the first time he emerges
> > > >   the package. Fixes bug #457598.
> > >
> > > Call me crazy, but upgrade guides seem like something you might want
> > > to tell the user about during an upgrade.
> > 
> > True, I was wondering if there is a way to show it on their first
> > upgrade instead; most users would indeed not be able or forget to
> > bookmark this during their handbook install.
> > 
> > Therefore, I won't commit this patch.
> > 
> > I wonder if Pacho can adapt the eclass to allow us to do this on the
> > first upgrade, I have explicitly put him in CC so he can consider that.
> > Perhaps he can also explain why he wanted to see this change happen.
> > 
> > I thought the goal of this eclass is to get rid of repeating messages
> > that are not that important from the elog. After you have installed the
> > kernel twice you should be able to do it a third time. People that
> > really still need the link have it either bookmarked or can look into
> > that file, another concern here is that nothing mentions its existence.
> > The user would have to spot it in the list of installed files, strange.
> > 
> > If I misunderstood the goal of this eclass, sorry, it's not documented.
> > I thought people were against these kind of repeating messages in elog.
> > 
> >  - http://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-reference/readme.gentoo.eclass
> > 
> >  - Bug in discussion: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=457598
> 
> Personally I think that the entire idea of only displaying messages on the
> first install is completely asinine.  What exactly is the benefit?  Were users
> complaining that we were being too helpful and they'd like us to hide important
> messages in random places?
> 

When you get tons of messages in summary.log, there are times that is
easier to ignore important messages over all the less important ones