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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>
To: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclass: autotools-multilib-minimal
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:21:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1361722869.20067.65.camel@belkin4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130224165302.7470cb1b@pomiocik.lan>

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El dom, 24-02-2013 a las 16:53 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:12:18 +0100
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
> > El dom, 24-02-2013 a las 15:57 +0100, Michał Górny escribió:
> > [...]
> > > > d) the previous point will also allow to convert go-mono.eclass packages
> > > > without introducing yet another eclass for that
> > > 
> > > So you're introducing a hacky eclass just because you're too lazy to
> > > convert go-mono packages properly and too impatient to let others do
> > > the work properly for you?
> > 
> > Would be nice to know what autotools-utils.eclass is doing differently
> > that is showing this problem with go-mono.eclass packages :/
> 
> I already told that I'm going to look at this but I have too much work
> to do right now so it's going to take a longer while.
> 

In that case, sorry, I probably missed it for some reason :S

> > Only one question, what is the reason for us having base.eclass and
> > autotools-utils.eclass?
> 
> I think that base.eclass is silently intended for removal at some point
> in the future. While we're here, we should probably mark it deprecated.
> 

I agree, I though it was marked as deprecated time ago, but last time I
read it it appeared to be still "active"

[...]
> You generally have two options on doing multilib builds: either using
> out-of-source builds or in-source builds. If you decide on the latter,
> you unnecessarily waste users' time and disk space to create two more
> copies of sources. I don't think we should go this way.
> 
> If you decide on out-of-source builds, you basically need proper
> src_{configure,compile,test,install} and that's what autotools-utils
> does. Plus:
> 
> - prune_libtool_files in src_install() which most people want to do
>   anyway, so that doesn't hurt -- and the pkg-config dep is going to
>   be removed, by the patch I sent already.
> 
> - patch applying and autoreconf in src_prepare() -- which are
>   completely optional, you are free to write your own src_prepare().
>   If you wanted to apply patches by hand, you'd need to write
>   src_prepare() anyway.
> 
> - adding libtool args for shared/static libs if IUSE=static-libs --
>   which I wanted to remove but people considered it useful.
> 
> > I would also like to hear why that people refuses to use
> > autotools-utils.eclass... because I don't have a strong opinion on this
> > topic 
> 
> Well, the major argument was similar to yours -- why we should use
> an eclass if default PMS functions work. But in the multilib case, they
> do not work by design anymore.
> 

OK, thanks for the info


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-24 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-24  0:34 [gentoo-dev] New eclass: autotools-multilib-minimal hasufell
2013-02-24  4:22 ` hasufell
2013-02-24 10:06   ` Michał Górny
2013-02-24 10:11     ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2013-02-24 14:17       ` hasufell
2013-02-24 14:33         ` Pacho Ramos
2013-02-27 13:01         ` Samuli Suominen
2013-02-27 20:13           ` Michał Górny
2013-02-27 20:15           ` Pacho Ramos
2013-02-24 14:57   ` Michał Górny
2013-02-24 15:12     ` hasufell
2013-02-24 15:12     ` Pacho Ramos
2013-02-24 15:53       ` Michał Górny
2013-02-24 16:21         ` Pacho Ramos [this message]
2013-02-24 16:28         ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-24 16:58         ` Samuli Suominen
2013-02-24 18:56           ` Michał Górny
2013-02-24 19:40             ` hasufell
2013-02-24 18:05         ` [gentoo-dev] " Jonathan Callen
2013-02-24 18:18           ` Michał Górny
2013-02-24 16:22 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alexis Ballier
2013-02-24 16:42   ` hasufell
2013-02-24 18:46     ` Alexis Ballier
2013-02-24 22:39 ` Samuli Suominen
2013-02-28  1:06   ` hasufell
2013-02-28  8:30     ` Michał Górny
2013-02-28 15:16       ` hasufell
2013-03-02  2:50       ` hasufell
2013-03-02 15:07         ` Michał Górny
2013-03-02 15:13           ` hasufell

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