[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
app-admin/augeas
app-admin/logsurfer+ 
app-admin/puppet
app-arch/upx-bin
app-backup/dar
app-backup/pdumpfs
app-crypt/pgpdump
app-dicts/fantasdic
app-misc/ttyrec
app-office/multitalk
app-text/gonzui
dev-cpp/gtest
dev-libs/boehm-gc
dev-libs/confuse
dev-libs/fribidi 
dev-libs/gmetadom
dev-libs/libev
dev-libs/libhid
dev-libs/libxdg-basedir
dev-libs/msgpack
dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
dev-python/python-augeas 
dev-ruby/facter
dev-ruby/hiera
media-video/vmaid
net-dns/ldns-utils
net-dns/maradns
net-dns/mydns
net-dns/unbound
net-libs/ldns
net-mail/checkpw
net-misc/kumofs
net-misc/scponly
net-misc/stone
net-misc/utelnetd
net-wireless/broadcom-sta
sys-apps/ccs-tools
sys-libs/libsafe
sys-libs/libtrash
x11-misc/growl-for-linux


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> app-backup/dar

I'll take this one.  Looks like most of the open bugs should be trivial to fix.

Rich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Matthew Thode]

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On 02/03/2013 12:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> app-admin/augeas
> app-admin/puppet
> dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
> dev-python/python-augeas 
> dev-ruby/facter
> dev-ruby/hiera
> 

taking these :D

-- 
-- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Matthew Thode]

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On 02/03/2013 01:18 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
> On 02/03/2013 12:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
>> app-admin/augeas
>> app-admin/puppet
>> dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
>> dev-python/python-augeas 
>> dev-ruby/facter
>> dev-ruby/hiera
>>
> 
> taking these :D
> 
Also, if anyone else wants to help me with these it would be appreciated.

-- 
-- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Alec Warner]

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 02/03/2013 01:18 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
>> On 02/03/2013 12:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
>>> app-admin/augeas
>>> app-admin/puppet
>>> dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
>>> dev-python/python-augeas
>>> dev-ruby/facter
>>> dev-ruby/hiera
>>>
>>
>> taking these :D
>>
> Also, if anyone else wants to help me with these it would be appreciated.
>
> --
> -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)
>

Afaik they are already in the sysadmin herd? I know puppet and facter
at least, infra uses both.

-A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Theo Chatzimichos]

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 02/03/2013 01:18 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
>> On 02/03/2013 12:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
>>> app-admin/augeas
>>> app-admin/puppet
>>> dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
>>> dev-python/python-augeas
>>> dev-ruby/facter
>>> dev-ruby/hiera
>>>
>>
>> taking these :D
>>
> Also, if anyone else wants to help me with these it would be appreciated.

Puppet and friends are not unmaintained. Ruby and sysadmin herds are
taking care of these already. No problem having you as co-maintainer
there though, just let us know before you do any major changes (most
of us are in #gentoo-infra)

Theo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Matthew Thode]

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On 02/04/2013 09:54 AM, Theo Chatzimichos wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> On 02/03/2013 01:18 PM, Matthew Thode wrote:
>>> On 02/03/2013 12:46 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>>>> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
>>>> app-admin/augeas
>>>> app-admin/puppet
>>>> dev-ml/ocaml-augeas
>>>> dev-python/python-augeas
>>>> dev-ruby/facter
>>>> dev-ruby/hiera
>>>>
>>>
>>> taking these :D
>>>
>> Also, if anyone else wants to help me with these it would be appreciated.
> 
> Puppet and friends are not unmaintained. Ruby and sysadmin herds are
> taking care of these already. No problem having you as co-maintainer
> there though, just let us know before you do any major changes (most
> of us are in #gentoo-infra)
> 
> Theo
> 
Ya, I didn't plan on anything major at all.

-- 
-- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ralph Sennhauser]

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:

> dev-libs/boehm-gc

Will take this one in a few days if no one else grabs it first.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Patrick Lauer]

On 02/03/2013 09:45 PM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100
> Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> dev-libs/boehm-gc
> 
> Will take this one in a few days if no one else grabs it first.
> 
Since it's a dependency of one package I maintain (dev-lang/opendylan) I
have a marginal interest in keeping it around. Feel free to add me to
metadata too if I forget.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ralph Sennhauser]

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On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 09:16:32 +0800
Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 02/03/2013 09:45 PM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote:
> > On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:46:52 +0100
> > Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > 
> >> dev-libs/boehm-gc
> > 
> > Will take this one in a few days if no one else grabs it first.
> > 
> Since it's a dependency of one package I maintain
> (dev-lang/opendylan) I have a marginal interest in keeping it around.
> Feel free to add me to metadata too if I forget.
> 

Added both of us.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Tim Harder]

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On 2013-02-03 Sun 04:46, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>net-dns/ldns-utils
>net-dns/unbound
>net-libs/ldns

I'll help maintain these.

Tim

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Michael Weber]

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On 02/03/2013 09:56 PM, Tim Harder wrote:
> On 2013-02-03 Sun 04:46, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> net-dns/ldns-utils net-dns/unbound net-libs/ldns
> 
> I'll help maintain these.
> 
> Tim
@Tim: you can add me there, too.

Michael

- -- 
Michael Weber
Gentoo Developer
web: https://xmw.de/
mailto: Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Sergey Popov]

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03.02.2013 16:46, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> dev-libs/confuse

I will pick up this one. I use it in one of my projects

-- 
Best regards, Sergey Popov
Gentoo Linux Developer
Desktop-effects project lead


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Thomas Kahle]

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On 13:46 Sun 03 Feb 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> dev-cpp/gtest

I'll take this one.

Cheers,
Thomas



-- 
Thomas Kahle
http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Dennis Lan (dlan)]

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Hi ALL:
I'd like to help with following packages (will proxy via tomka)

dev-libs/libev
   which I see one open bug, but trivial to fix
#429526<https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429526>

net-misc/ofono
   need version bump (current 1.10, upstream release 1.12)

If any developer willing to help, would be great! ~ and feel free to touch
the ebuilds which I maintain

Dennis

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Thomas Kahle <tomka@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 13:46 Sun 03 Feb 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > Due matsuu lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> > dev-cpp/gtest
>
> I'll take this one.
>
> Cheers,
> Thomas
>
>
>
> --
> Thomas Kahle
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mié, 06-02-2013 a las 18:17 +0800, Dennis Lan (dlan) escribió:
> Hi ALL:
> I'd like to help with following packages (will proxy via tomka)
> 
> dev-libs/libev
>    which I see one open bug, but trivial to fix #429526 
> 
> net-misc/ofono
>    need version bump (current 1.10, upstream release 1.12)
> 
> If any developer willing to help, would be great! ~ and feel free to
> touch the ebuilds which I maintain
> 
> Dennis

Looks like metadata needs updating ;)

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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

Due serkan lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
app-dicts/stardict-freedict-eng-tur
app-dicts/stardict-freedict-tur-deu
app-dicts/stardict-freedict-tur-eng
app-text/zpspell

Thanks for taking care of them

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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Due pva lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs:
app-dicts/stardict-freedict-eng-rus
app-doc/gimp-help
app-emulation/e-uae
app-emulation/uae
app-text/cuneiform (proxy maintained)
app-text/mathtex
app-text/yagf
dev-db/gigabase
dev-libs/guiloader-c++
dev-libs/guiloader
dev-libs/judy
dev-libs/xmlrpc-c (proxy maintained)
dev-perl/SpeedyCGI
dev-util/crow-designer
dev-util/oprofile
dev-vcs/monotone (proxy maintained)
gnome-extra/gpointing-device-settings
media-gfx/aewan
media-gfx/transfig
media-gfx/xfig
net-analyzer/smokeping
net-firewall/ufw-frontends (proxy maintained)
net-firewall/xtables-addons (proxy maintained)
net-libs/libmnl
net-libs/udns
net-misc/ipv6calc
net-misc/l7-protocols
net-misc/netkit-telnetd
net-misc/udpxy
net-nds/shelldap (proxy maintained)
net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp (proxy maintained)
sys-devel/qconf
sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode
sys-kernel/linuxwacom-module (proxy maintained)
www-misc/fcgiwrap (proxy maintained)
x11-libs/gtkdatabox


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Tom Wijsman]

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On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:08:06 +0100
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:

> dev-util/oprofile

Took this one, bumped the version and did some small fixes.


With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

E-mail address : TomWij@gentoo.org
GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Aaron Bauman]

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On Saturday 16 February 2013 14:08:06 Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due pva lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs:
> app-dicts/stardict-freedict-eng-rus
> app-doc/gimp-help
> app-emulation/e-uae
> app-emulation/uae
> app-text/cuneiform (proxy maintained)
> app-text/mathtex
> app-text/yagf
> dev-db/gigabase
> dev-libs/guiloader-c++
> dev-libs/guiloader
> dev-libs/judy
> dev-libs/xmlrpc-c (proxy maintained)
> dev-perl/SpeedyCGI
> dev-util/crow-designer
> dev-util/oprofile
> dev-vcs/monotone (proxy maintained)
> gnome-extra/gpointing-device-settings
> media-gfx/aewan
> media-gfx/transfig
> media-gfx/xfig
> net-analyzer/smokeping
> net-firewall/ufw-frontends (proxy maintained)
> net-firewall/xtables-addons (proxy maintained)
> net-libs/libmnl
> net-libs/udns
> net-misc/ipv6calc
> net-misc/l7-protocols
> net-misc/netkit-telnetd
> net-misc/udpxy
> net-nds/shelldap (proxy maintained)
> net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp (proxy maintained)
> sys-devel/qconf
> sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
> sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode
> sys-kernel/linuxwacom-module (proxy maintained)
> www-misc/fcgiwrap (proxy maintained)
> x11-libs/gtkdatabox

May I proxy net-misc/ipv6calc ?

Thank you,
Aaron

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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On 16/02/2013 14:08, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
> sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode

Are these included in linux-firmware (i.e. could we just remove them) or
not?

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Peter Stuge]

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Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode

I want this installed on my system.


> > sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode

But not this.


> could we just remove them

Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.

On the plus side it seems that these particular packages would
require very limited effort to maintain. :)


//Peter

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Samuli Suominen]

On 16/02/13 15:59, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
>>> sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
>
> I want this installed on my system.
>
>
>>> sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode
>
> But not this.
>
>
>> could we just remove them
>
> Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.

Having separate ebuild for every possible firmware is not the way to go 
anyway.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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On 16/02/2013 14:59, Peter Stuge wrote:
> Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.

Use savedconfig and stop wasting our collective time for your personal
lazyness.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:

>> Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.

> Use savedconfig and stop wasting our collective time for your
> personal lazyness.

Huh? Savedconfig isn't a solution for the license issue.

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina]

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On 02/16/2013 10:08 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Diego Elio Petten￲ wrote:
> 
>>> Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.
> 
>> Use savedconfig and stop wasting our collective time for your
>> personal lazyness.
> 
> Huh? Savedconfig isn't a solution for the license issue.

If he doesn't agree to the license he can use savedconfig to not install
those firmware packages.

Or am I missing your point?

- -ZC
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Rick \"Zero Chaos\" Farina wrote:

>> Huh? Savedconfig isn't a solution for the license issue.

> If he doesn't agree to the license he can use savedconfig to not
> install those firmware packages.

Yes, but ACCEPT_LICENSE wouldn't work. It would still be necessary to
include all licenses, even for firmware packages that are not
installed.

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Mike Gilbert]

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Rick \"Zero Chaos\" Farina wrote:
>
>>> Huh? Savedconfig isn't a solution for the license issue.
>
>> If he doesn't agree to the license he can use savedconfig to not
>> install those firmware packages.
>
> Yes, but ACCEPT_LICENSE wouldn't work. It would still be necessary to
> include all licenses, even for firmware packages that are not
> installed.
>

I'm sure I'm not the only one who really doesn't care about having
ACCEPT_LICENSE work properly for a package full of binary blobs. It
seems like a rather insignificant reason to split the package up.

If some of the licenses involved are particularly offensive to a large
number of people, then it might be worth while to split those
particular files out.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote:

> I'm sure I'm not the only one who really doesn't care about having
> ACCEPT_LICENSE work properly for a package full of binary blobs. It
> seems like a rather insignificant reason to split the package up.

Nobody has suggested to split it up. But until this is sorted out,
we should maybe keep the existing individual packages, unless there's
a good reason to remove them.

> If some of the licenses involved are particularly offensive to a
> large number of people, then it might be worth while to split those
> particular files out.

Look into the WHENCE file and be horrified. Taking just the first ten
items (of a total 114):

   Unknown license (3 times)
   GPL, but without source (3 times)
   "All rights reserved"
   BSD, without source
   Right for redistribution not granted
   "Permission is hereby granted for the distribution [...] as part of
       a Linux or other Open Source operating system kernel"

With one exception, we are not even allowed to redistribute these.

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Mike Gilbert]

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Look into the WHENCE file and be horrified. Taking just the first ten
> items (of a total 114):
>
>    Unknown license (3 times)
>    GPL, but without source (3 times)
>    "All rights reserved"
>    BSD, without source
>    Right for redistribution not granted
>    "Permission is hereby granted for the distribution [...] as part of
>        a Linux or other Open Source operating system kernel"
>
> With one exception, we are not even allowed to redistribute these.
>

Heh, point taken.
>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

On 16/02/2013 16:08, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> Huh? Savedconfig isn't a solution for the license issue.

Which Peter's remark is not about.

I do feel we need to fix the license issue, but I don't think this is
compounding anything to clear up the tree first.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Peter Stuge]

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Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> > Please don't. I think it would suck to lose the higher resolution.
> 
> Use savedconfig

linux-firmware is okey but not great. The high resolution is there,
which was my main concern, but it's not so easy to know how to create
a savedconfig without installing the package.

Of course it does save packaging effort, even if just one-time. I'll
get back to you if I have some idea for improving UX.


> <negative words>

I don't know why you think that it's OK to behave any way you like.


//Peter

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn]

Peter Stuge schrieb:
> linux-firmware is okey but not great. The high resolution is there, which was my main concern, but
it's not so easy to know how to create a savedconfig without installing
the package.

Just create a text file
/etc/portage/savedconfig/sys-kernel/linux-firmware with the desired
filename(s) and emerge linux-firmware with USE="savedconfig" enabled.


Best regards,

Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina]

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On 02/16/2013 08:44 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:
> On 16/02/2013 14:08, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
>> sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode
> 
> Are these included in linux-firmware (i.e. could we just remove them) or
> not?
> 

ozzie firmware # qfile iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode
sys-kernel/linux-firmware (/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode)
sys-kernel/linux-firmware (/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode)


Yup, we sure can remove them, and if no one beat me to it I will do that
now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

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On 16/02/2013 15:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> 
> Yup, we sure can remove them, and if no one beat me to it I will do that
> now.

Go for it.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote:

> On 16/02/2013 15:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>> 
>> Yup, we sure can remove them, and if no one beat me to it I will do
>> that now.

> Go for it.

Please don't.

Can we please stop removing individual firmware packages until
sys-kernel/linux-firmware has proper license labels, and allows for
selective installation?

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina]

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On 02/16/2013 10:11 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Diego Elio Petten￲ wrote:
> 
>> On 16/02/2013 15:41, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
>>>
>>> Yup, we sure can remove them, and if no one beat me to it I will do
>>> that now.
> 
>> Go for it.
> 
> Please don't.

Sorry, it was done before this email and I just saw it now.
> 
> Can we please stop removing individual firmware packages until
> sys-kernel/linux-firmware has proper license labels, and allows for
> selective installation?

I would be very happy to have the licensing issues fixed, it looks like
it won't be fun, however I was originally told that redist was a
required right for things to be added to linux-firmware at all so I fear
a lot of things may be out of sync in the upstream package.

Please though, can we all stop pretending savedconfig doesn't exist?  We
allow for selective installation already, AND you can install none of it
if you want, no one is forcing files on anyone that doesn't want them.

- -Zero
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:06:19 -0500
"Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" <zerochaos@gentoo.org> wrote:

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> 
> On 02/16/2013 10:11 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > Can we please stop removing individual firmware packages until
> > sys-kernel/linux-firmware has proper license labels, and allows for
> > selective installation?
> 
> I would be very happy to have the licensing issues fixed, it looks like
> it won't be fun, however I was originally told that redist was a
> required right for things to be added to linux-firmware at all so I fear
> a lot of things may be out of sync in the upstream package.
> 
> Please though, can we all stop pretending savedconfig doesn't exist?  We
> allow for selective installation already, AND you can install none of it
> if you want, no one is forcing files on anyone that doesn't want them.

savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have.
Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with
one cheap hack for the laziness of a few developers. But that's how
Gentoo worked for a long time.

- -- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Samuli Suominen]

On 17/02/13 12:05, Michał Górny wrote:
> savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have.
> Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with
> one cheap hack for the laziness of a few developers. But that's how
> Gentoo worked for a long time.

This is how you would justify adding separate ebuild for every firmware 
from the linux-firmware bundle?
Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Michał Górny]

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:22 +0200
Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 17/02/13 12:05, Michał Górny wrote:
> > savedconfig is a cheap hack. It lacks all the features USE flags have.
> > Really. We're talking here about replacing well-organized packages with
> > one cheap hack for the laziness of a few developers. But that's how
> > Gentoo worked for a long time.
> 
> This is how you would justify adding separate ebuild for every firmware 
> from the linux-firmware bundle?

I would justify it through keeping things split and bit-exact clean,
instead of tightly integrated.

Separate ebuilds mean that:

- each firmware has proper license,

- each firmware can be installed separately and it is _clean_ which
  firmwares are actually installed (think of binpkgs),

- each firmware can be upgraded when it needs to be (alternatively: all
  firmwares are re-installed over and over again when new firmware is
  added).

And I wouldn't mind having even 200 sys-firmware/ packages. And don't
tell me that firmwares change every month, these are particularly
maintenance-free packages.

And I don't mind having meta-packages for lazy people.

Although I believe that having a few 'group' packages for firmwares
will be 'acceptable'. Assuming those firmwares share a common license.

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn]

Diego Elio Pettenò schrieb:
> On 16/02/2013 14:08, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>> sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode
>> sys-firmware/iwl4965-ucode
>
> Are these included in linux-firmware (i.e. could we just remove them) or
> not?

These are included in linux-firmware. And because Intel has EOL'ed the
chipsets, it is unlikely that the firmware will ever be updated again.
So technically there is no necessity to keep them.

On the non-technical side, there are users who prefer them over the
linux-firmware package and will be upset if we remove them.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Tim Harder]

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On 2013-02-16 Sat 05:08, Pacho Ramos wrote:
>Due pva lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs:
>net-libs/libmnl

Added to netmon herd.

Tim

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Sven Eden]

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Am Samstag, 16. Februar 2013, 14:08:06 schrieb Pacho Ramos:
> Due pva lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs:
> app-emulation/e-uae
> app-emulation/uae

AFAIK both are long dead. The current actively developed uae variant is PUAE, 
but I'd say it is not ready for a wider audience right now. It syncs regularly 
with WinUAE, but its GUIs are in a bad shape. The configuration documentation 
is ... well ... lacking at best.

The PUAE maintainer, GnoStiC, has only a Mac to develop on. All linux stuff is 
currently done by me. And I am busy cleaning up code and getting to a state 
where I can bring the front-ends back into a working state.

PUAE: https://github.com/GnoStiC/PUAE
My cleanup-branch: https://github.com/Yamakuzure/PUAE
Note: We cross-merge. regularly.

Most people use an Amiga emulator for some nostalgic gaming only anyway. 
Therefore it might be a good idea to add fs-uae (gamerlay-stable) to the tree, 
if there is any need for it.

However, if there is a need to keep uae and e-uae, I could proxy maintain 
both. The code base I am working on is the same after all. And I have plenty 
of Amiga stuff lying around to test p-uae (Dragons Megademo anyone? ;)) anyway.

Cheers

Sven

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Anthony G. Basile]

On 02/16/2013 08:08 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due pva lack of time the following packages are now up for grabs:
>
> net-firewall/xtables-addons (proxy maintained)
> net-misc/ipv6calc

I can take care of these two.  I use both.

-- 
Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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As Ford Prefect will focus on pulseaudio related packages:
dev-python/python-gudev (now in proxy-maintainers herd)
dev-util/mutrace
dev-util/xesam-tools
media-sound/dbmeasure
media-video/arista


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Arun Raghavan]

On 5 February 2013 23:58, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
[...]
> media-sound/dbmeasure
[...]

I'll keep this one.

Cheers,
--
Arun Raghavan
http://arunraghavan.net/
(Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mar, 05-02-2013 a las 19:28 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
[...]
> media-sound/dbmeasure
[...]

Ford Prefect will still take care of this one

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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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Due leio lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
app-benchmarks/gtkperf


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Michael Weber]

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On 02/03/2013 02:27 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due leio lack of time the following packages are up for grabs: 
> app-benchmarks/gtkperf

mine. just fixed https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=428652

- -- 
Michael Weber
Gentoo Developer
web: https://xmw.de/
mailto: Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org>
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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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Due tester lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
app-admin/tmpreaper
app-dicts/verbiste
app-misc/esekeyd
media-libs/libgpod


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Gilles Dartiguelongue]

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Le dimanche 03 février 2013 à 12:44 +0100, Pacho Ramos a écrit :
> Due tester lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> app-dicts/verbiste

I am taking this.

-- 
Gilles Dartiguelongue <eva@gentoo.org>
Gentoo

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Samuli Suominen]

On 03/02/13 13:44, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due tester lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
> media-libs/libgpod

this should have been under the pda herd all along, i'll add the missing 
herd to metadata.xml

thanks!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Michael Weber]

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On 02/03/2013 12:44 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> Due tester lack of time the following packages are up for grabs: 
> app-admin/tmpreaper
mine.

- -- 
Michael Weber
Gentoo Developer
web: https://xmw.de/
mailto: Michael Weber <xmw@gentoo.org>
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[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Pacho Ramos]

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Due qiaomuf lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:

dev-libs/antlr-c


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[Pacho Ramos]

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Due trapni lack of time the following packages are up for grabs:
dev-util/ciabot-svn
sys-auth/pam_require


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[Pacho Ramos]

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After talking with s4t4n the following packages are up for grabs due
lack of time for maintaining them, feel free to catch them if you want:
app-emulation/vov
app-text/rtf2html
dev-libs/libical
dev-libs/libwbxml
dev-util/jif
media-gfx/qingy-themes
net-misc/directvnc
net-wireless/wifi-radar 
www-servers/bozohttpd


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due lack of time

[Thomas Kahle]

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On 13:11 Sat 02 Feb 2013, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> app-emulation/vov
> app-text/rtf2html
> net-misc/directvnc

Those will be maintained by Dennis (dlan) Lan and I will proxy.  I
updated metadata.xml.

Cheers,
Thomas



-- 
Thomas Kahle
http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/

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