[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[gentoo-dev] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Pacho Ramos]

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# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Will be maintained in squeezebox overlay, please switch to it.
# See bug #251494. Removal from the tree in a month.
media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Doesn't compile with recent kernels (#265581) and is not needed on
# them. Removal in a month.
net-dialup/misdn
net-dialup/misdnuser
net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Upstream dead, some problems (#277348), one possible replacement
# includes mod_authnz_external. Removal in a month.
www-apache/mod_authn_pam

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Patrick Lauer <patrick@gentoo.org> (16 Oct 2012)
# upstream dead since 2008, doesn't build
# See bug #282479. Removal in a month.
www-apache/mod_cplusplus

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Incompatible with recent kernels (#300047) , upstream dead, 
# net-dialup/martian-modem can be used instead in most cases.
# Removal in a month.
net-dialup/ltmodem

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Old SLOT is not maintained by upstream for a long time,
# nothing requires it (#311497). Removal in a month.
=dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Fails to build (#326799), upstream dead. Removal in a month.
www-apache/mod_spin

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Tests freeze (#343663), upstream dead, could be broken with
# some python versions. Removal in a month.
www-apache/mod_python

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Dead stuff that shouldn't be used and that is required by
# nothing (#407697). Removal in a month.
dev-dotnet/galago-sharp
sys-apps/galago-daemon
dev-libs/libgalago
# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Really old snapshot that is not compatible with apache-2.4,
# upstream looks dead (#411465). Removal in a month.
www-apache/mod_transform

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Upstream dropped them (#435842). Removal in a month.
dev-util/monodevelop-java
dev-util/monodevelop-python
dev-util/monodevelop-vala

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month.
media-libs/libdlna
media-video/ushare

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# As distfiles are no longer provided by upstream and license
# doesn't let us mirror them, it will be removed in a month (#444322).
app-admin/flexlm

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# EOL for a long time as Cisco dropped its support in favor of
Anyconnect,
# it no longer works with current kernels (#444420). Removal in a month.
net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Upstream dead for ages, numerous bubgs, uses old tcl (#445206).
# Removal in a month.
app-emulation/systemsim-cell

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Fails to build, always links statically (#448288). Removal in a month.
sys-block/gcloop

# Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
# Fails to launch (#294013), abandoned, ancient NotEye
# replaced it long time ago (#447848). Removal in a month.
games-roguelike/noegnud-data
games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack
games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem



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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Markos Chandras]

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On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>
> # Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
> # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month.
> media-libs/libdlna
> media-video/ushare
>
This is not a valid reason to remove it. I use it every day. Please remove
the masking. You should have contacted me first as I think I am on metadata
(haven't checked yet)

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +0000, Markos Chandras escribió:
> 
> On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > # Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
> > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month.
> > media-libs/libdlna
> > media-video/ushare
> >
> This is not a valid reason to remove it. I use it every day. Please
> remove the masking. You should have contacted me first as I think I am
> on metadata (haven't checked yet)
> 
> 

You were contacted at:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443238#c1

But no problem with dropping the mask... the only doubt, should we keep
libdlna too or drop optional ushare support for it?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Pacho Ramos]

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El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 19:46 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +0000, Markos Chandras escribió:
> > 
> > On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > # Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
> > > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month.
> > > media-libs/libdlna
> > > media-video/ushare
> > >
> > This is not a valid reason to remove it. I use it every day. Please
> > remove the masking. You should have contacted me first as I think I am
> > on metadata (haven't checked yet)
> > 
> > 
> 
> You were contacted at:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443238#c1
> 
> But no problem with dropping the mask... the only doubt, should we keep
> libdlna too or drop optional ushare support for it?

+  26 Dec 2012; Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> package.mask:
+  Unmask libdlna/ushare as it's still soon to kill libav-9 incompatible
+  packages (that is still hardmasked)
+


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Markos Chandras]

On 26 December 2012 21:25, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 19:46 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribió:
>> El mié, 26-12-2012 a las 17:14 +0000, Markos Chandras escribió:
>> >
>> > On Dec 25, 2012 8:33 PM, "Pacho Ramos" <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > # Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> (25 Dec 2012)
>> > > # Fails to build with libav-9 (#443238). Removal in a month.
>> > > media-libs/libdlna
>> > > media-video/ushare
>> > >
>> > This is not a valid reason to remove it. I use it every day. Please
>> > remove the masking. You should have contacted me first as I think I am
>> > on metadata (haven't checked yet)
>> >
>> >
>>
>> You were contacted at:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=443238#c1
>>
>> But no problem with dropping the mask... the only doubt, should we keep
>> libdlna too or drop optional ushare support for it?
>
> +  26 Dec 2012; Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> package.mask:
> +  Unmask libdlna/ushare as it's still soon to kill libav-9 incompatible
> +  packages (that is still hardmasked)
> +
>

To be honest, I see no reason for masking packages for removal because
they don't build with libav-9. I don't know much about libav-9 but to
my understanding it is supposed to provide an API similar to ffmpeg
(that's why we have the virtual after all). This means that if the API
is now broken, there is nothing wrong with the package, as libav-9 is
not API compatible with ffmpeg. I guess the best solution here is to
remove the virtual/ffmpeg from dependencies and use just
media-video/ffmpeg. Of course, the libav maintainers should know
better.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

On 26/12/2012 23:19, Markos Chandras wrote:
> To be honest, I see no reason for masking packages for removal because
> they don't build with libav-9. I don't know much about libav-9 but to
> my understanding it is supposed to provide an API similar to ffmpeg
> (that's why we have the virtual after all). This means that if the API
> is now broken, there is nothing wrong with the package, as libav-9 is
> not API compatible with ffmpeg. I guess the best solution here is to
> remove the virtual/ffmpeg from dependencies and use just
> media-video/ffmpeg. Of course, the libav maintainers should know
> better.

Have you tried it with the masked ffmpeg? Because there's a tracker for
that as well, and it so happens that shares most of the failure (since
ffmpeg merges back most of libav changes anyway).

So basically, you're out of luck if you hope that you don't have to look
to make this compatible with the new API.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Markos Chandras]

On 27 December 2012 00:25, Diego Elio Pettenò <flameeyes@flameeyes.eu> wrote:
> On 26/12/2012 23:19, Markos Chandras wrote:
>> To be honest, I see no reason for masking packages for removal because
>> they don't build with libav-9. I don't know much about libav-9 but to
>> my understanding it is supposed to provide an API similar to ffmpeg
>> (that's why we have the virtual after all). This means that if the API
>> is now broken, there is nothing wrong with the package, as libav-9 is
>> not API compatible with ffmpeg. I guess the best solution here is to
>> remove the virtual/ffmpeg from dependencies and use just
>> media-video/ffmpeg. Of course, the libav maintainers should know
>> better.
>
> Have you tried it with the masked ffmpeg? Because there's a tracker for
> that as well, and it so happens that shares most of the failure (since
> ffmpeg merges back most of libav changes anyway).
>
> So basically, you're out of luck if you hope that you don't have to look
> to make this compatible with the new API.
>
> --
> Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
> flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>

No I haven't. Like I said I don't know much about the
similarities/differences between ffmpeg and libav. So you say that the
masked ffmepg provides the same API with the libav-9? Thanks for the
info, I was not aware of that.

-- 
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Lastrites: media-sound/logitechmediaserver-bin, net-dialup/misdn, net-dialup/misdnuser, net-misc/asterisk-chan_misdn, www-apache/mod_authn_pam, www-apache/mod_cplusplus, net-dialup/ltmodem, =dev-libs/gmime-2.2.27-r1, www-apache/mod_spin, www-apache/mod_python, dev-dotnet/galago-sharp, sys-apps/galago-daemon, dev-libs/libgalago, www-apache/mod_transform, dev-util/monodevelop-java, dev-util/monodevelop-python, dev-util/monodevelop-vala, media-libs/libdlna, media-video/ushare, app-admin/flexlm, net-misc/cisco-vpnclient-3des, app-emulation/systemsim-cell, sys-block/gcloop, games-roguelike/noegnud-data, games-roguelike/noegnud-nethack, games-roguelike/noegnud-slashem

[Diego Elio Pettenò]

On 27/12/2012 00:01, Markos Chandras wrote:
> No I haven't. Like I said I don't know much about the
> similarities/differences between ffmpeg and libav. So you say that the
> masked ffmepg provides the same API with the libav-9? Thanks for the
> info, I was not aware of that.

Give or take, they should be pretty much the same yes.

-- 
Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes
flameeyes@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/