From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32E41381F3 for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:12:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47E7C21C17F; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E32C21C19C for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.43]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id B258520905; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:12:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:12:04 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cddr.org; h= message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=rMaJWN8vhi6AxYdjy7JwLB3 W6W4=; b=LKgM0J9x/hESUWpedkuzTVzg+EKXSBqTaQ+bOpoteYGqg6h+NQQj87o CKRUoaRFGSmOQZtTNLxpVsG/BW3IhesmqOwVp8sAoVvyW99IZiKcP1qFnezExZYj Spwx4n3DBBPhOZzHL+4E1dg/zFki/wxzGO3TU/wmtXvhvwyE2RI0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=rMaJWN8vhi6AxYdjy7JwLB3W6W4=; b=Z3CCo/tPPAe4GIgyEjKSe8a1zo+F 1kvhZAOhq2j3+m8US46zJ1BSKa2ea3glFYBjubUgylHOU0j5OAyP4cN6ZyF6ZIWg zkGAPF1YiFGO84IYmXSTJnGixGj1Xcg2oVZRK0BUwl+oHYaXwCSFtUlqbCBVt7we bRfCCLRpsKuA87M= X-Sasl-enc: q30/MbCqkFavJOd/tBseNOeW98LHdB4ASKsvHG/jmTGY 1356102724 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (unknown [109.99.3.8]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E0048E008A for ; Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:12:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1356106321.4128.5.camel@cathai.lan> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement From: Stelian Ionescu To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 18:12:01 +0200 In-Reply-To: <2964727.bpNzpbQ8Ug@eve> References: <20121215203359.4552d807@pomiocik.lan> <2939089.IbOZCMC3y7@eve> <20121221124223.3f82390f@pomiocik.lan> <2964727.bpNzpbQ8Ug@eve> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-XrGDgKToCc2xuseUKtz0" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: f6cb6de7-4cb9-47cc-9623-720c937dbb3d X-Archives-Hash: dd300d677266b5b7a4fd2faad070c2d0 --=-XrGDgKToCc2xuseUKtz0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:48 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:42:23 PM Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:31:28 +0100 > >=20 > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:02:34 PM Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote= : > > > > On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 11:24:45 +0100 > > > >=20 > > > > "J. Roeleveld" wrote: > > > > > On Friday, December 21, 2012 09:57:25 AM Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny w= rote: > > > > > > Just let me know when you have to maintain a lot of such system= d > > > > > > and upgrade, say, glibc. Then maybe you'll understand. > > > > >=20 > > > > > A shared /usr means I need to update ALL the systems at once. > > > > > When /usr is not shared, I can update groups at a time. > > > >=20 > > > > Yes, and this is what disqualifies it for the general case. If you > > > > can't update one at some point, you can't update the others or it i= s > > > > going to likely get broken in a random manner. > > >=20 > > > Yes, but do you want to find out when the entire production environme= nt is > > > down? Or would you rather do the upgrades in steps and only risk havi= ng to > > > rebuild a few nodes and have a lower performance during that time? > > > There is a big difference between 50% performance and 0%. > >=20 > > Didn't you just state that you *have* to update all at the same time? >=20 > Please re-read what I wrote. > I said, with a *shared* /usr, then yes, I do need to update the entire= =20 > environment at the same time. That's not true. --=20 Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib --=-XrGDgKToCc2xuseUKtz0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABEIAAYFAlDUilEACgkQjWsER8+9ASXCdQCbBGQxOvuodelTJCkp/uiwQhz5 xKQAn1xQi8w6iJH3iqW0vkX/o7+nXwCV =wy/v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-XrGDgKToCc2xuseUKtz0--