Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

[Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>]

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On 2012.12.17 15:15, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On 17 December 2012 12:31, Dirkjan Ochtman <djc@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Markos Chandras
> <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> Outsource it to someone who has the knowledge and interest in 
> doing
> >> this. The foundation has the funds to support it, and none of us
> >> actually have the time to invest in a complete webpage redesign.
> >
> > If we have funds for this kind of thing, the PSF process is a good
> example:
> >
> > http://pythonorg-redesign.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
> >
> > (And I think that would be a great idea.)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dirkjan
> >
> 
> I believe this is something that this[1] project needs to decide and
> set it in motion.
> 
> [1]http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/website.xml
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
> 
> 
> 

To make this project a suitable project for Foundation funding, it 
needs a clearly defined specification that can be circulated for 
interested parties to provide fixed price quotations against.

The specification provides several things:-
1. the scope of work (out of scope work is extra cost)
2. the basis to judge completion (so we pay the fee)
3. some guidance as to implementation details

I know that 3. is unusual in a requirement specification but in this 
case it is unlikely that the Foundation would fund ongoing 
mainatainace, so we would need to dictate a few implementation details.
e.g. no Flash, Gentoo colours,

Its worth contrasting this sort of thing with a bug bounty.  The 
requirement is easy - fix the bug. Judging completion is fairly 
straight forward too. The patch is accepted by $UPSTREAM. 
The requirement specification for a website is a lot of work by 
comparison.

Suppose the team in [1] above wrote the specification, who needs to 
agree it?

The council, the trustees, the body of devs ... some combination of 
that list.  All in all, producing an agreed specification for a website 
it probably as much work as actually building the site. It could easily 
be as much work as the PMS. 

Anyway, I'm rambling a little.
In summary, if we decide to outsource the website project, it needs to 
be carefully controlled.

-- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
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