From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D478B1381F3 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 560D921C126; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 988EA21C123 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 18:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F65220494; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:15:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:15:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cddr.org; h= message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references :content-type:mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=xO69RMAbIu/FnY6l5Xbab4d FnNY=; b=WDSOLS4ZKEZiaTxO63+h9pGFG0fmjmPi6xjaD0ufqGm8l/7MJaqviKp ACTqjrzl8nrhLCDkS9DHhXPAJcEJaF/kumtw+Zpxh1KxJ/EGO6EGOQ4rUGqfn4h/ 50uL3uBWP2WBzFYTMPICpk8hA3v6LeAJH0M/caDX8c8rDIsd0kCg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date :in-reply-to:references:content-type:mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=xO69RMAbIu/FnY6l5Xbab4dFnNY=; b=Yw4imnqjWWncgC+wOw6Hy0aIQNYK vDg9PEIM80YfWVQLxI9SAct7WTor/HXl7sxXJFZGSBbZfA9+xw6NlJpNMgCaFU78 wYcNl7PG6v/rdSj7exhfe6Q8aValuwEmcd6GFfueqZKa4RgRJxxhq0CUBDOSlCMo 4bfckEnhMwmPU2A= X-Sasl-enc: lk03LsPiJExGojDh1Mu2qT5NXnVQ7GxDmvnzUNU0Roi3 1353262512 Received: from [172.20.0.6] (unknown [93.145.126.19]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 55EB38E0550 for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2012 13:15:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1353262510.10772.13.camel@cathai.lan> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] From: Stelian Ionescu To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 19:15:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4bdd949a377d40eb85590870be440551@HUBCAS1.cs.stonybrook.edu> <50A8943E.7070607@gentoo.org> <20121118080845.GA8628@kroah.com> <50A89A73.3050709@flameeyes.eu> <50A8C257.7060103@mva.name> <50A8F918.2010802@flameeyes.eu> <50A90205.8040402@mva.name> <50A9030A.60806@flameeyes.eu> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-8Z9heRXBcVojBOQ3deJC" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.4.4 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: a5744b97-a43e-43df-a51d-f59c44355c3f X-Archives-Hash: a93cb8d904c8f044d6185c6d4062dec9 --=-8Z9heRXBcVojBOQ3deJC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2012-11-18 at 17:19 +0000, Duncan wrote: > Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 posted on Sun, 18 Nov 2012 07:47:22 -0800 as exce= rpted: >=20 > > On 18/11/2012 07:43, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > >> And, by the way, I doubt, that people "laugh" about eudev (previously > >> named udev-ng) creation. Mostly they just can't understand why gentoo > >> devs created third udev's fork, where it was already done (and > >> maintained) fork for LFS (somewhere on bitbucket) > >=20 > > People _are_ laughing at it. On G+, on Twitter, I suppose identi.ca and > > IRC as well. >=20 > There's worse things than being laughed it. In fact, what's the oft-used= - > in-MS/Linux-context quote (Gandi if I'm not mistaken), something along= =20 > the lines of... >=20 > First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then= =20 > you win! >=20 > If they're laughing, they're beyond the ignore stage. And we see=20 > evidence of the fight stage now too. If the idea behind that quote is=20 > correct... People keep repeating that quote implying that whenever somebody laughs at an idea it's because the idea is worth something, but that's illogical and in fact false: just because B(worthy idea) was preceded by A(laughter) doesn't mean that whenever there's A(laughter) then B(worthy idea) ensues http://xkcd.com/386/ --=20 Stelian Ionescu a.k.a. fe[nl]ix Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur. http://common-lisp.net/project/iolib --=-8Z9heRXBcVojBOQ3deJC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABEIAAYFAlCpJa4ACgkQjWsER8+9ASWfggCggX6h/mmWnPuCa87SHQ6qX/Tf OCgAniMGrp2ATcskmVegGAPZr5/MeC07 =gif+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-8Z9heRXBcVojBOQ3deJC--