From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB3713800E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3998E070C; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B19FE06C8 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (61.Red-2-137-47.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [2.137.47.61]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 29CB11B4054 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:29:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <201207271324.48571.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <3146937.NEprMvEFLe@mephista> <20498.15988.225230.614853@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <501285DC.2020207@gentoo.org> <201207271324.48571.vapier@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qA25fYi2/zj7qpKoLOIO" Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 20:29:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1343413763.7511.1.camel@belkin4> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 X-Archives-Salt: d99a749b-27a0-40e9-bbf0-b99988887838 X-Archives-Hash: 4aee0473dd48f8396adc7868224448ed --=-qA25fYi2/zj7qpKoLOIO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 27-07-2012 a las 13:24 -0400, Mike Frysinger escribi=C3=B3: > On Friday 27 July 2012 08:13:16 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n= wrote: > > Ulrich Mueller schrieb: > > > As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an en_US > > > locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas as thousands > > > separators in numbers (because of LC_NUMERIC). Also the defaults of > > > en_US for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER are only useful in the U.S. > > >=20 > > > So if we change the default (but I still don't see the need), we > > >=20 > > > should go for a less intrusive setting like: > > > LANG=3D"POSIX" > > > LC_CTYPE=3D"en_US.utf8" > >=20 > > This would be better than LANG=3D"en_US.utf8" but I would still prefer = not > > to have any country/region attached to the locale. The C.UTF-8 locale > > which Debian uses for this purpose (a UTF-8 locale without side effects= ) > > appears more suitable to me. >=20 > yes, and i'm waiting on the POSIX group to formalize C.UTF-8. that's the= only=20 > real option in my mind for making unicode the default. any other=20 > amalgamations of various locales is ugly as sin. > -mike Do you have any idea about how much time could that formalization take? If it will take a long time, maybe we could go to that amalgamations :-/ --=-qA25fYi2/zj7qpKoLOIO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAlAS3gMACgkQCaWpQKGI+9StvQCeLukug4iuQ9NVb2TSWZpKoRMB BDIAoIIXo1UNX9vAIMmPalG8n7ScifH/ =o1Td -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qA25fYi2/zj7qpKoLOIO--