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From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:11:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1340453488.5979.65.camel@belkin4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120623123759.03d19277@googlemail.com>

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El sáb, 23-06-2012 a las 12:37 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:38:09 +0200
> Peter Stuge <peter@stuge.se> wrote:
> > If you don't understand something of what thus far has been written,
> > then why not ask specific questions to fill those gaps, and move on?
> 
> The multilib material isn't at the point where specific questions can be
> asked. Brian's description of it as an "opaque list of things" is
> pretty much spot on. That's why we want a GLEP and a PMS diff -- an
> attempt at those might bring this to the point where we can say
> something other than "huh?".
> 

Looks like you have now opted to use Brian's comment as a kind of
"shield" of similar and discuss only about multilib, even when this
thread was more general and we were talking to the problems shown in
recent discussions (from forcing rebuilds issue, optional deps problems
to some trivial questions like know where we can see what things are
being worked out for eapi5). 

In all that discussions there were a clear tendency to always say "it's
fine the way it's", even when a lot of people didn't even know what
things were going to be included in eapi5, or discuss for days about the
forcing rebuilds issue (with the, now classical, glib vs dbus-glib/g-i
issue) to finally still tell people "we still didn't fully know what the
problem was". I remember that, just after Brian and Zac's comments about
trying to clarify things a bit on that thread and reach a solution, your
reply to them was that we were missing a brilliant opportunity to
"encourage developers put in a bit more work to save users a huge amount
of pain here". Personally, I see a clear difference about their way to
show their disagreement and yours.

Of course, I know how this thread will end: once we decide to stop
replying (or anybody asks us to stop) as you seem to find this happy or
so and, of course, you will always say the last word, the problem will
get stalled until three months later somebody else rises the problem
again letting you to show again that "always rejecting position" you
seem to like.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-23 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34           ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21  8:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21  9:23       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  0:38       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  5:30         ` Duncan
2012-06-22  5:55         ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22  6:20         ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43   ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21  6:08     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:00       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:25         ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:39           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  7:53             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23  9:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  9:53                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30                     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:05                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52                               ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11                               ` Pacho Ramos [this message]
2012-06-23 12:16                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43                   ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:12                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09                       ` Duncan
2012-06-21  9:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04             ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23  8:19             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15           ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  8:01             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13             ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 13:20               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26                 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29  5:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29  5:29         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21  6:41     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:24       ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29  5:20   ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21  9:42   ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29  5:25 ` Mike Frysinger

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