From: Homer Parker <hparker@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:13:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1340284430.5028.15.camel@homer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120621133048.416c6ccd@snowbell>
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On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 13:30 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:11:27 -0500
> Homer Parker <hparker@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-06-21 at 08:00 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > In case you're not aware, the first time Gentoo did multilib, it was
> > > done as a series of random changes to Portage that no-one really
> > > thought through or understood. As you can see, that didn't work...
> >
> > No, but paved the way for other distros as they had nothing
> > even close. I'm sure you remember back then. Don't be an ass.
>
> And what did Gentoo get out of it?
>
> What I remember is Gentoo putting in lots of work randomly changing
> things until things worked, and ending up not knowing what most of
> those changes were or why they were done. The end result is that
> there's still a random smattering of multilib-related mess cluttering
> up ebuild internals that doesn't actually do anything except cause
> intermittent breakages. Doing experiments is great as a way of
> understanding the problem, but it isn't how you deliver a solution.
> That takes a lot more work, and someone has to be prepared to do it.
>
The hell? Other distos where still thinking of how to implement
multilib and we had it. I know first hand as I trashed a system trying
out the latest-n-greatest.. And the next round fixed it. The -emul
packages from then on along with the multilib profiles have worked fine.
Again, quit being an ass. Oh, and what I remember is.. You didn't
contribute. There was kingtaco, lv, and kuglafang <sp?>. So you're clear
there, you didn't have a damn thing to do with it.
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Homer Parker <hparker@gentoo.org>
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21 9:23 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 0:38 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 5:30 ` Duncan
2012-06-22 5:55 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22 6:20 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21 6:08 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:25 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 7:53 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 9:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 9:53 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43 ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:12 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09 ` Duncan
2012-06-21 9:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 8:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15 ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 8:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13 ` Homer Parker [this message]
2012-06-21 13:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29 5:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29 5:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21 6:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:24 ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29 5:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21 9:42 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29 5:25 ` Mike Frysinger
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