From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-50503-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S9Jum-0000DY-3b for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:29:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ABB9E092D; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE43FE0851 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (184.Red-79-147-154.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [79.147.154.184]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12A8E1B401A for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 18 Mar 2012 17:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Anybody willing to take care of sgml herd? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] media-optical, net-zope, sgml, text-markup herds are empty) From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1332090062.21995.1.camel@belkin4> References: <1330865251.10135.51.camel@belkin4> <1330865501.10135.52.camel@belkin4> <1330865787.10135.53.camel@belkin4> <1331280143.2710.2.camel@belkin4> <20120309165711.6b6c7857@pomiocik.lan> <1331322539.18744.6.camel@belkin4> <4F5A61DF.7060209@gentoo.org> <1331324152.18744.11.camel@belkin4> <1331324479.18744.12.camel@belkin4> <1332090062.21995.1.camel@belkin4> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Z1mKpRUAQLS5WsMq4G+Y" Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:28:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1332091695.21995.6.camel@belkin4> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 X-Archives-Salt: dec024d2-5592-4c77-90f4-ed38f113f0ff X-Archives-Hash: 42e27e89bcac892967747cbd511f0c57 --=-Z1mKpRUAQLS5WsMq4G+Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El dom, 18-03-2012 a las 18:01 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 21:21 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 21:15 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 22:02 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribi=C3=B3: > > > > On 03/09/2012 09:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 16:57 +0100, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny escr= ibi=C3=B3: > > > > >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:02:23 +0100 > > > > >> Pacho Ramos<pacho@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:56 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3= : > > > > >>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:51 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3= =B3: > > > > >>>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:47 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3= =B3: > > > > >>>>>> Even if they have some people in their mail aliases, looks l= ike > > > > >>>>>> herds are empty. If nobody volunteers to join to them, I thi= nk > > > > >>>>>> we should drop that herds and move their packages to > > > > >>>>>> maintainer-needed in a week or so. > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>>> What do you think? > > > > >>>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> The same applies to "sgml" now that cryos is retiring :( > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> and text-markup, I think it's the last empty herd now > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Maybe we could do the same as did in the past for openoffice he= rd: > > > > >>> - Change metadatas and bugs to assign them to maintainer-needed= (and > > > > >>> reflect reality) > > > > >>> - Keep herd in metadatas and CCed them to bug reports > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The other option would be to simply drop that herds, assign pac= kages > > > > >>> to maintainer-needed and wait developers to grab whatever they = want > > > > >> > > > > >> For net-zope, I'd prefer dropping it. We decided to get rid of Z= ope, > > > > >> removed almost all relevant packages, so there's no point in kee= ping > > > > >> the herd. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > OK but, what about the rest? ;) > > > >=20 > > > > Please leave at least media-optical@ be as it is. Changing it doesn= 't=20 > > > > make any sense. > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Well, the idea would be to get their bugs assigned to maintainer-need= ed > > > and media-optical CCed if somebody wants to take that stuff someday, = it > > > would reflect better reality as, currently, their bugs are being > > > assigned to an empty herd (yes, xarthisius (I think he was in alias b= ut > > > not officially in herd last time I checked, anyway it's only one > > > example, nothing personal against him of course :)). What will occur > > > when he simply drops his mail from alias as he never wanted to be a > > > member of that herd? What would occur if he only wants to maintain so= me > > > packages but others are getting ignored? > > >=20 > > > The idea to get them moved to "orphan" is to reflect reality and, tha= t > > > way, try to get developers (or users willing to proxy maintain them) > > > involved on exact apps they really want to keep maintained. > >=20 > > As talked just now with Samuli, he added him to media-optical (both, to > > alias and herds.xml) and then, this no longer applies to media-optical > > obviously ;) > >=20 >=20 > Will then do the following: > - Add a <maintainer> tag to their metadatas to get bugs assigned to > maintainer-needed > - Keep herd to get it CCed (like was done some weeks ago with openoffice > herd) >=20 > This applies to "sgml" and "text-markup" since media-optical is active > again and looks like net-zope packages will go away soon >=20 Finally, only sgml is inside this case as it contains a lot of packages: app-doc/halibut app-emacs/nxml-mode app-emacs/psgml app-office/passepartout app-text/asciidoc app-text/build-docbook-catalog app-text/docbook-dsssl-stylesheets app-text/docbook-sgml-dtd app-text/docbook-sgml-utils app-text/docbook-sgml app-text/docbook-xml-dtd app-text/docbook-xml-simple-dtd app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets app-text/docbook2X app-text/gentoo-guide-xml-dtd app-text/gnome-doc-utils app-text/grutatxt app-text/highlight app-text/html-xml-utils app-text/html2text app-text/html401 app-text/htmlrecode app-text/htmltidy app-text/linuxdoc-tools app-text/openjade app-text/opensp app-text/robodoc app-text/sablotron app-text/scrollkeeper-dtd app-text/scrollkeeper app-text/sgml-common app-text/sgmltools-lite app-text/sgrep app-text/txt2tags app-text/webgen app-text/xhtml1 app-text/xml2 app-text/xml2doc app-text/xmlformat app-text/xmlstarlet app-text/xmlto dev-ruby/xml-simple www-client/htmlview Is anyone willing to join the herd? If not, maybe somebody could take a few packages if they want to take care of only a set of them and not all the beast :-/ --=-Z1mKpRUAQLS5WsMq4G+Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk9mGy8ACgkQCaWpQKGI+9Qc5gCggFCLAFDcC/xyH27npJz66XCP gUYAnjOLYlB+u/dJNvrYR/Lgc3FpmwoF =pkZu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Z1mKpRUAQLS5WsMq4G+Y--