From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-50137-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1S66KE-0006sC-Bu for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2012 20:22:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13320E080B; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 20:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ECC9E07DB for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 20:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.33] (231.Red-2-137-65.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net [2.137.65.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BEB891B4044 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 9 Mar 2012 20:21:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] media-optical, net-zope, sgml, text-markup herds are empty From: Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1331324152.18744.11.camel@belkin4> References: <1330865251.10135.51.camel@belkin4> <1330865501.10135.52.camel@belkin4> <1330865787.10135.53.camel@belkin4> <1331280143.2710.2.camel@belkin4> <20120309165711.6b6c7857@pomiocik.lan> <1331322539.18744.6.camel@belkin4> <4F5A61DF.7060209@gentoo.org> <1331324152.18744.11.camel@belkin4> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-d8XodMayOaF0IVaYFP1a" Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 21:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: <1331324479.18744.12.camel@belkin4> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.3 X-Archives-Salt: 00da7ad5-fb38-4165-bd83-fd6dca570ca9 X-Archives-Hash: 105803e502c99471e68d30c308b40750 --=-d8XodMayOaF0IVaYFP1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 21:15 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 22:02 +0200, Samuli Suominen escribi=C3=B3: > > On 03/09/2012 09:48 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > El vie, 09-03-2012 a las 16:57 +0100, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny escribi= =C3=B3: > > >> On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 09:02:23 +0100 > > >> Pacho Ramos<pacho@gentoo.org> wrote: > > >> > > >>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:56 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > > >>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:51 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > > >>>>> El dom, 04-03-2012 a las 13:47 +0100, Pacho Ramos escribi=C3=B3: > > >>>>>> Even if they have some people in their mail aliases, looks like > > >>>>>> herds are empty. If nobody volunteers to join to them, I think > > >>>>>> we should drop that herds and move their packages to > > >>>>>> maintainer-needed in a week or so. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> What do you think? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The same applies to "sgml" now that cryos is retiring :( > > >>>> > > >>>> and text-markup, I think it's the last empty herd now > > >>> > > >>> Maybe we could do the same as did in the past for openoffice herd: > > >>> - Change metadatas and bugs to assign them to maintainer-needed (an= d > > >>> reflect reality) > > >>> - Keep herd in metadatas and CCed them to bug reports > > >>> > > >>> The other option would be to simply drop that herds, assign package= s > > >>> to maintainer-needed and wait developers to grab whatever they want > > >> > > >> For net-zope, I'd prefer dropping it. We decided to get rid of Zope, > > >> removed almost all relevant packages, so there's no point in keeping > > >> the herd. > > >> > > > > > > OK but, what about the rest? ;) > >=20 > > Please leave at least media-optical@ be as it is. Changing it doesn't= =20 > > make any sense. > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > Well, the idea would be to get their bugs assigned to maintainer-needed > and media-optical CCed if somebody wants to take that stuff someday, it > would reflect better reality as, currently, their bugs are being > assigned to an empty herd (yes, xarthisius (I think he was in alias but > not officially in herd last time I checked, anyway it's only one > example, nothing personal against him of course :)). What will occur > when he simply drops his mail from alias as he never wanted to be a > member of that herd? What would occur if he only wants to maintain some > packages but others are getting ignored? >=20 > The idea to get them moved to "orphan" is to reflect reality and, that > way, try to get developers (or users willing to proxy maintain them) > involved on exact apps they really want to keep maintained. As talked just now with Samuli, he added him to media-optical (both, to alias and herds.xml) and then, this no longer applies to media-optical obviously ;) --=-d8XodMayOaF0IVaYFP1a Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk9aZj8ACgkQCaWpQKGI+9QtsQCfTeH+zxObFk8ei0bsG/qKDYZV vgYAoIJOdocU3LTXjjhu3PEafliIdATQ =Y9+C -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-d8XodMayOaF0IVaYFP1a--