From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oD7-0008Vl-Sq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:17:10 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FBB721C0F8; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.34.167]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 788BD21C08A for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 06:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.34.135] (helo=smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oCZ-0008AR-Ml for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:35 +0200 Received: from 5ed027a1.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([94.208.39.161] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp4.gn.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R4oCZ-0006L1-3o for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:35 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2F0CFD for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from data.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (data.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g7tDm6nFY6ec for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from eve.localnet (eve.lan.antarean.org [10.20.13.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 184AC635 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev and /usr Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 08:16:32 +0200 Message-ID: <1330478.gIiuRHWAbS@eve> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.36-gentoo-r5; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <1740055.XA9oyAS8HQ@eve> <1884169.5d71snpPpZ@eve> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-ID: 1R4oCZ-0006L1-3o X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-SpamCheck: geen spam, SpamAssassin (niet cached, score=-0.692, vereist 5, BAYES_00 -1.90, KHOP_DYNAMIC 0.73, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.98, RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.50) X-ZiggoSMTP-MailScanner-From: joost@antarean.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 05e72de0741ea83b36729095516d6cdf On Friday, September 16, 2011 06:06:35 PM Duncan wrote: > Joost Roeleveld posted on Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:36:27 +0200 as excerpted: > > I agree, I just used this example to explain that it shouldn't be > > necessary to force an initramfs on all users just because there is a > > small group who wants to have an extreme setup. > > Careful with the "extreme". As you no doubt realize by now, the udev > folks apparently consider anyone wanting a separate /usr but not an initr* > "extreme". That'd certainly apply double if said admin (since no simple > "user" cares about such stuff, in this view) had /usr on lvm. Yes, I've noticed that. Except that Redhat and Centos use LVM by default. Which will also mean that "simple users" also end up using LVM. Then again, they also end up with an initr* and a generic kernel for everything under the sun. I haven't properly looked at the kernel-configs from redhat lately, but I don't think they include all the possible hardware options be default? -- Joost