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From: Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:14:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1329081282.446.9.camel@rook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20280.5374.577507.960890@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>

On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 20:37 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Paweł Hajdan, wrote:
> 
> > On 2/11/12 2:00 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> >> Other distros associate a more user-friendly package name
> >> (application name) to packages.
> >> Say, they bind libreoffice-writer to "LibreOffice Writer" in
> >> package metadata.
> 
> [Replying to a random message in this thread.]
> 
> Why do you think that writing the package name in mixed case and with
> embedded white space would be more "user friendly"?

because-removing-all-upper-case-spaces-and-punctuation-from-a-string
makes it less readable to a non-programmer.

> >> How about expanding metadata.xml (adding to its .dtd) to also
> >> support this?
> 
> I still don't see what this would buy us. So far we have a unique
> identifier (namely ${CATEGORY}/${PN}) for our packages. Introducing
> another name will water this down and cause confusion for users, in
> the first place.
> 
> So, can you point out what are the advantages of your proposal?
> Are they large enough to outweigh the confusion arising?

Users know a package's "natural name", not the occasionally cryptic
ebuild name, and certainly not the category. If I want to install a game
called "Neverwinter Nights", it may not be immediately apparent to me
that I should emerge something called "games-rpg/nwn".

Adding the natural name to metadata would allow users to more easily
find the packages they need via packages.gentoo.org and tools like eix.

-Alexandre




  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-12 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-11 13:00 [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-11 13:27 ` Michał Górny
2012-02-11 14:03   ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-12  0:02   ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-02-12  8:01     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-02-12 15:43 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-02-12 19:37   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-02-12 21:14     ` Alexandre Rostovtsev [this message]
2012-02-12 21:22       ` Michał Górny
2012-02-12 21:34         ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-02-12 21:43           ` James Broadhead
2012-02-13  0:42       ` Thomas Sachau
2012-02-13  8:35         ` Markos Chandras
2012-02-13 13:12           ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-13 17:24           ` Kent Fredric
2012-02-13  9:41 ` Luca Barbato

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