Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag

[Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>]

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El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 15:52 -0500, William Hubbs escribió:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:03:42PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > El jue, 21-04-2011 a las 14:30 -0500, William Hubbs escribió:
> > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:20:32PM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> > > > El mié, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribió:
> > > > > В Срд, 20/04/2011 в 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs пишет:
> > > > > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a
> > > > > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used
> > > > > > in the boot process.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is good idea to have in any case since I remember my system went
> > > > > crazy after I've tried to start some service inside chroot.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This may work; however, I do not feel that it addresses the root cause
> > > > > > of the bug. I feel that the root cause is packages unconditionally
> > > > > > installing udev rules which assume everyone uses openrc.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd voted to have both implemented.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I would vote for the first one, I still don't like "openrc" USE flag
> > > > approach much because:
> > > > 1. Would need to rebuild some packages when switching between init
> > > > systems.
> > > 
> > > I don't think you can get away from this, no matter how you approach
> > > it. The other approach I thought of is to include the udev pieces
> > > directly in openrc and make it possible to build openrc with or without
> > > udev integration. That will still mean you have to rebuild openrc though
> > > if you want udev support.
> > > 
> > 
> > With mgorny's approach looks like recompiling wouldn't be needed :-/
> 
> His approach doesn't stop udev from attempting to run the services; it
> just makes openrc print an error message and abort each service we try
> to run.
> 
> With the integration into udev that we have right now, some of our udev
> rules expect openrc to be usable.
> 
> William
> 

Didn't know that, thanks again 


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