From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QCc2X-0002Q8-T3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:22:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D61ED1C09C; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453DE1C05B for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.201] (215.150.222.87.dynamic.jazztel.es [87.222.150.215]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: pacho) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7E7B01B400F for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc use flag From: Pacho Ramos To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1303322561.22688.9.camel@tablet> References: <20110420172419.GC12411@linux1> <1303322561.22688.9.camel@tablet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vo0TMzBZf97pEH75sNnA" Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:20:32 +0200 Message-ID: <1303323632.9092.30.camel@localhost.localdomain> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3d020e970f11d748369b547518d426fb --=-vo0TMzBZf97pEH75sNnA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El mi=C3=A9, 20-04-2011 a las 22:02 +0400, Peter Volkov escribi=C3=B3: > =D0=92 =D0=A1=D1=80=D0=B4, 20/04/2011 =D0=B2 12:24 -0500, William Hubbs = =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=88=D0=B5=D1=82: > > The author of the bug feels that the way to fix this is for us to put a > > check in openrc that makes it refuse to run services if it was not used > > in the boot process. >=20 > This is good idea to have in any case since I remember my system went > crazy after I've tried to start some service inside chroot. >=20 > > This may work; however, I do not feel that it addresses the root cause > > of the bug. I feel that the root cause is packages unconditionally > > installing udev rules which assume everyone uses openrc. >=20 > I'd voted to have both implemented. >=20 I would vote for the first one, I still don't like "openrc" USE flag approach much because: 1. Would need to rebuild some packages when switching between init systems. 2. I remember (from "logrotate" USE flag case) that using an USE flag for simply installing or not a file is not usually preferred :-/ Best regards --=-vo0TMzBZf97pEH75sNnA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk2vI/AACgkQCaWpQKGI+9ToWwCfYc5OU0Xgvb5Nm+MN7oVuIvQg qlUAn32yNriOzGm+qKCr0/C5Dsq52W3E =8DjT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vo0TMzBZf97pEH75sNnA--