Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item

[Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org>]

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El jue, 14-04-2011 a las 12:51 +0200, Tomá? Chvátal escribió:
> On Thursday 14 of April 2011 13:32:04 Kfir Lavi wrote:
> > When i run world update, I usually don't really check all the written stuff.
> > 
> > If I do this, I'm sure a lot more Gentoo users do the same.
> > So do expect people rebooting the machine without checking what your have
> > wrote.
> > This can be a major headache if you have few systems that are doing auto
> > updates.
> > I would solve this issue by stopping the emerge and getting the attention of
> > the user.
> > If I don't get the attention of the user, no openrc will be installed.
> > It should be something like emerge -C ... 1 .2 3 4 5...
> > 
> > To conclude, you can't issue such a change without proper confirmation from
> > the user.
> > 
> This was discussed multiple times, news items are to be read.
> Users ignore elog informations/web announcements/... so it was agreed that 
> news item is agressive enough to user so they must read it.
> If they don't do so it is just their fault.
> And no runtime changing for portage where it expect some input is seriously 
> stupid idea, most of us script updates in batch and noone would actualy read 
> it.
> 
> Never the less as I said we expect user to read that stuff and if he does not 
> he is on his own due to his dumb approach.

I also thought about this problem: I usually read news items before
updating, but I have also seen how other people with root access to
other machines I mainly maintain forget from time to time to do so. 

This is why I opened:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=363567

As news items are really there to be read BEFORE updating, I think that
it should be enforced to prevent people from updating before reading
them (I have also read Lars comment, I obviously have no problem at all
with adding some option to revert this behavior, but I still think
default behavior should be to prevent update if news items are not
read).


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