From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PyQ75-0001cm-SM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:48:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BA03E07BC; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93809E07AA for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 14:47:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf23 with SMTP id 23so4688619wyf.40 for ; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:47:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.227.139.149 with SMTP id e21mr9416071wbu.147.1299941250870; Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from [172.28.64.145] (host249-252-static.95-94-b.business.telecomitalia.it [94.95.252.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y29sm4381672wbd.4.2011.03.12.06.47.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:47:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: =?UTF-8?Q?Diego_Elio_Petten=C3=B2?= Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Quantity of open bugs From: Diego Elio =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Petten=F2?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20110310202510.45627780@athlong2.kevquinn.com> References: <20110307130425.3C1ED1C042@pigeon.gentoo.org> <20110310202510.45627780@athlong2.kevquinn.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-i0ArujC4dZ6RHv4n0wnl" Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 15:45:34 +0100 Message-ID: <1299941135.2212.94.camel@raven.home.flameeyes.eu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 053e53392e34077aef1bb317a98979ea --=-i0ArujC4dZ6RHv4n0wnl Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Il giorno gio, 10/03/2011 alle 20.25 +0000, Kevin F. Quinn ha scritto: >=20 > * Number of open bugs is greater than 14,000=20 For the record, about 10% of those are reported by me through tinderbox (1506 open bugs reported by me as of today). A number of those date back in 2008 and earlier, and could be fixed reasonably quickly if the packages were maintained. And no, me or any other number of people going through to fix just those is not feasible, see my old post at [1] for some reasons. I actually use the fact that these are still open to judge whether a package has to be removed from the tree, closing them would definitely be a bad idea for two reasons: - makes it harder to see whether the package has any maintainer at all; - would waste my time as I'd be re-opening the same exact bug at the following tinderbox iteration, as the original bug was closed (and no, I wouldn't go _reopening_ the bug, since I wouldn't remember there was one already most of the time, so the load on bugzilla would increase). So if somebody would still have doubts about this, I think the point is vetoed to close bugs without action as WONTFIX after any time at all. Rather get rid of the package in that case. And you can challenge that with the council if you wish as I'm weighting that in as part of QA, thank you very much. OTOH if a bug is waiting for user to report build logs or other kind of test results, closing as TEST-REQUEST or NEEDINFO is likely a good idea. [1] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2009/12/28/the-five-minutes-fix-myth --=20 Diego Elio Petten=C3=B2 =E2=80=94 Flameeyes http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ --=-i0ArujC4dZ6RHv4n0wnl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABCAAGBQJNe4bjAAoJEBqCrVe7WSRD6+wH/Ark13z7d6FK4jnY3cYAN+3k LSQ92/cJXXTd6v9IMxeQV+uZ9MVWyWuJoVTjMTy8dl822fqc2VXg98MSs0Op65sh OFTJpxSKaQkm2iyiorvml5rQP0qVQuQQfcsGqVRLBZzGXnmR3X9xch11+aGoJ2i+ ntKCW3isrQVkq3O5WQDdF54Bbgrbnwps9TX1FxcxAaig/z+jlOe/Sa7UbcMC2cX9 Ys0TB6HLfsbUapm9rDu0t0hxhd4+N5ZGL74MVETi8kYSBgcUVvdBPRvK8xOktJTI YeJMiI0hyHL6B1L9/JpL0NjQX4oW7BipXq3Kxa2vOwhIY7SMAXDYelQROaKNnk8= =Uui+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-i0ArujC4dZ6RHv4n0wnl--