From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OnanP-0001hC-Cz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:26:55 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9673E08C5; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD747E089A for ; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:26:42 +0000 (UTC) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from TesterServ.TesterNet ([70.83.102.254]) by VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTP id <0L7M0077T8GIVZE0@VL-MO-MR003.ip.videotron.ca> for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtlxpqak-1176055545.sdsl.bell.ca ([70.25.46.249] helo=[192.168.1.117]) by TesterServ.TesterNet with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OnanC-0007Y7-73 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The future of sys-apps/openrc in Gentoo From: Olivier =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cr=EAte?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-reply-to: <1282575945.23781.35.camel@gdartigu.lan.rep.sj> References: <201007041630.07537.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20100704133949.0cda055a@gentoo.org> <4C30EA89.4020806@gentoo.org> <4C314233.8030809@gentoo.org> <1282575945.23781.35.camel@gdartigu.lan.rep.sj> Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-KFT5lZCJoin+mCZU48or" Organization: Gentoo Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:26:33 -0400 Message-id: <1282584393.4313.6.camel@TesterTop4> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.2 (2.30.2-4.fc13) X-Archives-Salt: 79a1585c-e904-4e2f-a4ff-f7f2b1cca76e X-Archives-Hash: 0b20840e89e1f3a3d192977124baeca9 --=-KFT5lZCJoin+mCZU48or Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:05 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Le lundi 05 juillet 2010 =C3=A0 08:57 +0000, Duncan a =C3=A9crit : > [lots of stuff about bashisms and posix] > > So let's stabilize OpenRC and be done with it, and /then/ we can debate= =20 > > where we want to go from there. > >=20 >=20 > YES, let's get it stable. >=20 > However please consider not re-adding bashisms and/or not make it less > POSIX shell compliant than it already is at light speed. It is a great > thing that openrc tries to achieve and allows more use of openrc than > basic desktop/server gentoo usage (think embedded and other distros). > At least one other distro did this move a while ago (debian) and I don't > think they will go back. Seeing they are also moving to a dependency > based init system, they probably could just run a fork of openrc (for > their init scripts are not exactly compatible with what we do). Other distributions are going one step further and are going for shell-free boot. We should follow that lead. --=20 Olivier Cr=C3=AAte tester@gentoo.org Gentoo Developer --=-KFT5lZCJoin+mCZU48or Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkxyr0kACgkQHTiOWk7Zorvz4gCfeWwhLZGwQERCjL1810r6LRQT DUAAnA4zOPcx34nE56MIj7srOu0NDhCZ =OxkR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-KFT5lZCJoin+mCZU48or--