From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:34:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1269542070.3165.0@NeddySeagoon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100324211255.GA23676@linux1> (from williamh@gentoo.org on Wed Mar 24 21:12:55 2010)
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On 2010.03.24 21:12, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote:
> > On 24 March 2010 21:25, William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > If we make it clear in the news item that python-3 cannot be used
> as the
> > > default python, so if users do not want it they should mask it,
> we
> have
> > > done our job imho. In other words, this is just a matter of
> informing
> > > users.
> >
> > We agree that this is the minimum that should be done. But our
> > Python lead stubbornly refuses to honor this reasonable request.
>
> On the other hand, I can see his point as well. The news item makes
> it
> very clear that python-3 cannot be the default python and that
> python-2
> needs to be installed.
>
> It could be argued that he is just assuming that users are
> intelligent
> enough to figure out that they need to mask python-3 if they
> do not want it on their systems.
>
> Basically this is a case of "how much hand-holding do we want to do"?
>
> William
>
>
The case where Python-3 cannot be used as the default Python is
transitory (it may be a long time). Should we advise users of stable to
mask it, we will get a lot of pleas for help when Python-3 is required
because many users will have forgotten all about package.mask
In my view, its better to avoid these future unmasking issues as stable
users tend to be very wary of unmasking things and let them have
Python-3 unless they are already comfortable with the contents of /etc/
portage ... in which case they are not using stable anyway.
--
Regards,
Roy Bamford
(Neddyseagoon) a member of
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2010-03-04 18:22 [gentoo-dev] Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 18:38 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-23 19:01 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-04 21:16 ` Sebastian Pipping
2010-03-04 21:43 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-04 22:56 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05 4:59 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-07 17:11 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2010-03-07 17:32 ` Samuli Suominen
2010-03-07 18:26 ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-07 20:06 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-07 18:25 ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-08 5:38 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-08 3:08 ` Ryan Hill
2010-03-08 5:00 ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-08 9:39 ` Matti Bickel
2010-03-08 9:53 ` Antoni Grzymala
2010-03-08 14:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Peter Hjalmarsson
2010-03-08 14:31 ` Petteri Räty
2010-03-05 8:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05 9:10 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 9:41 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05 9:56 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 10:14 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-05 10:22 ` Dirkjan Ochtman
2010-03-05 11:09 ` Maciej Mrozowski
2010-03-05 11:24 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-05 12:37 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-05 17:23 ` Alistair Bush
2010-03-05 19:28 ` Andy Kittner
2010-03-05 20:23 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2010-03-05 19:26 ` Duncan
2010-03-06 0:19 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-08 21:28 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-10 17:36 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-10 22:43 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11 0:25 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11 1:24 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-11 2:34 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-11 5:04 ` Jacob Godserv
2010-03-11 18:32 ` Alec Warner
2010-03-12 20:48 ` Ravi Pinjala
2010-03-05 10:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Zac Medico
2010-03-10 13:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Christian Faulhammer
2010-03-23 19:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-23 19:28 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 16:43 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 16:56 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:23 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:35 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 17:37 ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:41 ` Doktor Notor
2010-03-24 17:51 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2010-03-24 18:04 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 18:28 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 18:41 ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-24 18:55 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 18:57 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 16:57 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:14 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:32 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-24 17:36 ` Alec Warner
2010-03-24 17:45 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 17:53 ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-03-24 17:47 ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-24 18:03 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 19:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-24 19:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Sachau
2010-03-24 20:25 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-24 20:36 ` Ben de Groot
2010-03-24 21:12 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-25 3:47 ` Joshua Saddler
2010-03-25 15:37 ` Richard Freeman
2010-03-26 9:02 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:10 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 12:33 ` Pacho Ramos
2010-03-26 12:35 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 15:40 ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 15:57 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:08 ` Dale
2010-03-26 16:28 ` Alec Warner
2010-03-26 17:27 ` Jeremy Olexa
2010-03-27 17:37 ` William Hubbs
2010-03-26 17:43 ` Dale
2010-03-26 17:53 ` George Prowse
2010-03-26 18:39 ` Dale
2010-03-26 18:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2010-03-25 18:34 ` Roy Bamford [this message]
2010-03-25 19:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 7:59 ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2010-03-26 12:21 ` Zac Medico
2010-03-26 14:22 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 15:43 ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 16:04 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-26 16:15 ` Brian Harring
2010-03-26 16:37 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2010-03-24 21:22 ` Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
2010-03-23 19:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jonathan Callen
2010-03-24 17:58 ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
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