From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-39992-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Nq0NH-0001Jw-BX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:37:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9117AE0CEF; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:37:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.36]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCFCE05F2 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay216.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECF726C3526D for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:21 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay216.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HcCXk9-oqu6Y for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:19 +0200 (EET) Received: from NETI-Relayhost2.estpak.ee (neti-relayhost2.estpak.ee [88.196.174.199]) by relay216.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638D026C35169 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:37:19 +0200 (EET) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businessmail: no Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Split desktop profile patches & news item for review From: Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <e117dbb91003111420w656ec61ax677b65737ea02027@mail.gmail.com> References: <201003041652.56521.tampakrap@gentoo.org> <201003080318.02585.tampakrap@gentoo.org> <e117dbb91003101736j664db7c7pdd46144bbe830b49@mail.gmail.com> <1268338853.29433.0.camel@localhost> <e117dbb91003111420w656ec61ax677b65737ea02027@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/komLOV6GXzxn9+0pHG7" Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:36:57 +0200 Message-Id: <1268383017.6834.14.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Archives-Salt: ba79756f-398e-4559-be64-3ae260424a38 X-Archives-Hash: 4c89fc949f514922e89c0dc77d30ef1f --=-/komLOV6GXzxn9+0pHG7 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 23:20 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 11 March 2010 21:20, Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 02:36 +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> Seeing as there were no further comments, I think we are good to go! > > > > I suggest reading my comments... >=20 > Unless I missed something, you didn't make any comments on this > thread. The subthread got renamed to more fit its purpose. > If you mean the thread you started that tangentially took off from this > one, about eselect profile improvements: I support that proposal, > but it will take some time to get implemented. Is anyone already > working on that? >=20 > In the meantime I see no reason for that to halt or postpone the > current desktop profile improvements as prepared by Theo. I argued that it's a bad idea to add yet more profiles, when we could avoid that (while even improving things additionally). But I guess I'll have to bring some direct points why I think implementing the alternative as I described ASAP is better than ever doing this gnome/kde subprofile thing: * The split desktop profile plan retroactively modifies 2008.0 and 10.0 profiles. Not a good thing for obvious reasons. (Of course the subprofiles could also be added together with a new release, as proposed for the alternative idea) * Adding yet more subprofiles, increasing repoman and pcheck time, possibly confusing users (migration things; changing USE flags in a perceived stable release profile leading to unexpected --newuse triggering, etc) * Making it harder to get both GNOME and KDE things out of a profile (though the common things in desktop profile right now is quite suboptimal for GNOME) * Putting the problem of suboptimal subprofiles handling under the carpet again, greatly reducing the motivation for people to work on the alternative better proposal --=20 Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: leio@gentoo.org Weblog: http://blogs.gentoo.org/leio --=-/komLOV6GXzxn9+0pHG7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkuZ/SkACgkQkeYb6olFHJfmlgCfZ3aC3z4WjGHjIvZttRAch0uW 8coAmQGYZSgPSwYqvRcV3ldoKTG82vpZ =W46/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-/komLOV6GXzxn9+0pHG7--