From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NodtL-0001jh-Ba for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:25:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A50DE0904; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB4CE08F6 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179401B4010 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:24:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.862 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.862 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.263, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NccVlENIZCnU for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420631B4019 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NodsL-0006mI-T1 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Received: from liten.csbnet.se ([95.80.45.98]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:24:05 +0100 Received: from xake by liten.csbnet.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:24:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Peter Hjalmarsson Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:23:02 +0100 Message-ID: <1268058182.22940.11.camel@lillen> References: <201003041923.17749.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <4B902321.4020906@gentoo.org> <20100307171147.GL30005@halcy0n.com> <20100307210814.1dd43fc8@gentoo.org> <20100308050038.GA2172@Zeerak.Fullrate> <4B94C5C7.9090703@gentoo.org> <20100308095337.GA16259@chopin.edu.pl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: liten.csbnet.se In-Reply-To: <20100308095337.GA16259@chopin.edu.pl> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.29.91 X-Archives-Salt: 3bd47b42-10f0-499a-82b6-795f993e1c95 X-Archives-Hash: 06410ebd15c53f0703c36254fd0d1c48 m=C3=A5n 2010-03-08 klockan 10:53 +0100 skrev Antoni Grzymala: > Sorry guys if I missed something crucial in this lengthy thread, but > from what I'm understanding: >=20 > if python-3 goes stable (and unmasked): >=20 > - it is a separate, slotted version > - it generally shouldn't get pulled in (current portage non-greedy > behaviour on slots) > - if it does get pulled in by, say, and old portage version, or a > package with badly defined deps, it shouldn't do any harm because it > will just sit quietly in its slot and old packages will still > compile/run against (already installed) python-2.x >=20 > or not? >=20 > PS. one thing I realize I may be missing is the /usr/bin/python symlink > and the /usr/bin/python-wrapper to which it points. Will the default > change to python31 upon python-3 installation? >=20 > best, >=20 AFAICS you are right (and that is also why I have a hard time understanding the flames here, are people so against fixing the deps in their packages and/or filing bugs and/or contacting devrel about those maintainers who refuse to fix their packages?). about your ps: pyhon-3 is absolutely harmless in its current form, and that is partly because it does not take over the role as the system python unless you do something stupid/uninformed.