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certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: whissi) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6901934D8B6 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Revisiting GLEP 81 (acct-*) policies (reviews, cross-distro syncing) To: gentoo development References: <84a435bffe460efd2620ceec0c0405fa18a7937b.camel@gentoo.org> From: Thomas Deutschmann Autocrypt: addr=whissi@gentoo.org; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFc4iggBEACg/drq2pkXyE0mO7cqfaH5UX9D2A8uaBWHcgVPZdf+bVlc7gT1b/TJgFBO yCecB1j9ReWWAE55nwraFL7+5XofRnwVzC3PglN/M/F02fudCeEkFfDtH65DZ67LV0QqXOZ7 e2aqD1NxJM1ydcehIoxgESiv8ctMCcb5Jui2A7vddxEBouQqJKDVqXqANEiBrtd0x4+noRC3 07BN80SgUiwuSJp8Y9+LSdKWGxiDxFAQygDlLWu1QIOg2PUjrM1ZtKCii8IcbnhsEPZj0jcQ f/omIHaksyfMdx6lHfSUZzzLQm41nhWlgYUxzW4D8Nh+ka51FIIWRWwNJTXQNpU8s32AT+rr K2hyNY0F+hnCRc0gUJtAACPZYNYNMlTCIb5yLKo5qoRKcHkAI3vAPEsPO8nmpYaxhI+9PwWJ 9BMaOZ0PjN5P5p0ierOd3yjuu0CIx+yirAvZMZYLx3HylFmuIke5GfcfzTuZhgRL1yoaftCH 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protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lC3ZjLzImWKIDsZF8YL4lpcqdbqpX2I22" X-Archives-Salt: 307cb048-9f5b-452c-a913-95098dbc0041 X-Archives-Hash: 06d890a57a3106c9f4abba6eba1e5bde This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lC3ZjLzImWKIDsZF8YL4lpcqdbqpX2I22 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8mSmJwc8C2vqKXXGrUIMe2w0hLsEq4oHE" --8mSmJwc8C2vqKXXGrUIMe2w0hLsEq4oHE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2019-12-09 18:47, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > One problem with that is that at some time user.eclass dynamically > allocated IDs starting at 101 upwards, and later this was changed to 99= 9 > downwards (at different times for UIDs and GIDs). So for existing > systems you can expect some range above 101 and some range below 999 to= > be occupied. So it may not be the best idea to start picking IDs from > 101 upwards, which are most likely to collide. Sure, but what's the problem here? Or let me rephrase: Which problem do you try to avoid/address with blocking 501-999 for now? Like said, if an ID is already taken for any reason on user's system, that's not a problem. acct-* can handle that... there's nothing like a collision. And until user.eclass is completely gone, all packages are migrated to GLEP 81 and all users have completely reinstalled their Gentoo systems (most packages used dynamic allocation until GLEP 81), you won't have "clean", collision free systems with same ID all over the places. --=20 Regards, Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer C4DD 695F A713 8F24 2AA1 5638 5849 7EE5 1D5D 74A5 --8mSmJwc8C2vqKXXGrUIMe2w0hLsEq4oHE-- --lC3ZjLzImWKIDsZF8YL4lpcqdbqpX2I22 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGTBAEBCgB9FiEEExKRzo+LDXJgXHuURObr3Jv2BVkFAl3ujC9fFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldDEz MTI5MUNFOEY4QjBENzI2MDVDN0I5NDQ0RTZFQkRDOUJGNjA1NTkACgkQRObr3Jv2 BVlNBgf/fNVpI7mjeIzF5qNuxw+DRYT+4dtWpqKdF7gjgcml0j8UAmt8NcIx1ztZ 98QnKqFFFqtAyHqpzR2kgiWBFX21N3CBPbBKY2uQQazzFBNgdzpcQP8hfTT5TaB2 5dR9C+/5OICpfC6FIwb4h4/VJOkOBwEW3UaLcPUgVFI/6qidJfTfoP9gSe8EdN8i zSfXI5EJADdAzDLNHorGRA6uGbSVrQ1+cv5sJ+4Tm/+d1+QikJjR3vMqIPSWpznD zBTJqQ5YuyGNsTF/Df0ClTlrAfJXMxNUJnaWfObT+go2yrq8oPi0bb3h4YKUU8lO g0PDkYDAaAm47sc2mXGE1DmawWzPpQ== =xwE3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lC3ZjLzImWKIDsZF8YL4lpcqdbqpX2I22--