From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N7XEC-0006ZS-Cz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:36:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF313E0924; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.37]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF99E0924 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay210.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D32BAD63271; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:36:25 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relay210.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2wQRROk9OiUE; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:36:22 +0200 (EET) Received: from NETI-Relayhost1.estpak.ee (neti-relayhost1.estpak.ee [88.196.174.198]) by relay210.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB769AD63240; Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:36:22 +0200 (EET) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] About udev-145: new features / extras and kernel requirements From: Mart Raudsepp To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Matthias Schwarzott In-Reply-To: <200908301611.53087.zzam@gentoo.org> References: <200908301611.53087.zzam@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Z+i83zmbzjOlKbXeKV61" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:35:54 +0200 Message-Id: <1257784554.16908.3.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Archives-Salt: f2d659b1-807b-452f-bcf7-54fb9b59a9ad X-Archives-Hash: a72864fd7d70fa66ea1ca9dfd5ac3814 --=-Z+i83zmbzjOlKbXeKV61 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2009-08-30 at 16:11 +0200, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > Hi there! A late hello, > Second point: udev-145 bundles a lot of new extras, but they can only be=20 > enabled/disabled all or nothing. >=20 > These extras are: > * udev-acl: Apply consolekit permissions to devices for users (audio, vid= eo,=20 > joysticks, scanner, cameras, ...) > * usb-db: Provide udev-rules with device names of pci and usb devices > * hid2hci: Special utility to fix resume of some hid devices > * keymap: Auto-configure model specific keys found on many laptops=20 > ("brightness up", "next song", "www browser", or "suspend") > * modem-modeswitch: Switch modems that provide virtual cd-drive with driv= ers=20 > to modem mode I think the thread hasn't seen an answer to the question of when these are actually used or useful, as asked in another subthread as well. > * gudev: glib/gobject support for libudev Would it be possible to have this in a separate package? Of course then with a temporary compatibility PDEPEND on it with udev[extras] until packages needing gudev migrate over. And what of the above listed other things besides core udev does gudev require or potentially use? > This makes udev depend on these libs: > libacl, libglib2, libusb, usbutils, pciutils, gperf >=20 > Up to now I have just added use-flag "extras" to control these. But I sup= pose=20 > that udev-acl and maybe gudev is a hard requirement for newer hal or=20 > devicekit versions. And upstream thinks these should be enabled by defaul= t. >=20 > Are any of these extras considered harmful? On some non-desktop systems perhaps, yes. --=20 Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: leio@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio --=-Z+i83zmbzjOlKbXeKV61 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkr4ROoACgkQkeYb6olFHJfdHACeNckb8EjetKU5c6Tjkd5VyY+7 lp8An0mdXUYqcqL81p+SdduQ6y0fdOm9 =hW4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Z+i83zmbzjOlKbXeKV61--