From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N5ip2-0002p8-G1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:35:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 928D0E0CB2; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5A3E0CB2 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.101] (21-104.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.3.104.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320E567405 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2009 16:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] client/server consistency: USE flags / split packages From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1257349497.20584.2085.camel@tablet> References: <1257349497.20584.2085.camel@tablet> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha1"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-KBZOjyj9VXZmkRXsQC5E" Organization: Gentoo Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:34:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1257352489.6780.433.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 X-Archives-Salt: fa641ed1-504f-4109-890f-fdb5433599fc X-Archives-Hash: d0f22c4e184aec963ab8cc384359e761 --=-KBZOjyj9VXZmkRXsQC5E Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-RhRBkoTjpDCqwpuxtuO8" --=-RhRBkoTjpDCqwpuxtuO8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2009, 18:44 +0300 schrieb Peter Volkov: > Hi. How do we handle packages that provide client, server, and possibly > extra tools/libraries? Do we split packages like binary distros do or do > we use USE flags? What USE flags? Currently some packages are split > other use client, server or minimal USE flag(s). >=20 > Back in 2006 similar problem was discussed many times with no final > resolution - it was hard to ban split packages since portage had no > support for USE deps. Also some packages started to utilize 'minimal' > USE flag to force users read USE flag description and thus reduce its > usage and lower number of bugs due to not-installed parts of package. >=20 > With EAPI=3D2 both use deps and USE defaults (if necessary) are here so > it's possible to introduce some guidelines: >=20 > 1. do not split packages; use USE flags and USE deps. > 2. stop using minimal USE flag to build client or sever only. >=20 >=20 > So are there any good reasons to split packages? In environments with a staging server and binary packages, yes. --=20 Tiziano M=C3=BCller Gentoo Linux Developer Areas of responsibility: Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor E-Mail : dev-zero@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : F327 283A E769 2E36 18D5 4DE2 1B05 6A63 AE9C 1E30 --=-RhRBkoTjpDCqwpuxtuO8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.13 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkrxrSkACgkQGwVqY66cHjDT4gCeMAYFeETg8pML2YLv8iW1/F9f RxoAn1iS/ImJvEm1HJVI0RY3CufryobD =3D+XOk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-RhRBkoTjpDCqwpuxtuO8-- --=-KBZOjyj9VXZmkRXsQC5E Content-Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature; name="smime.p7s" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="smime.p7s" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExCzAJBgUrDgMCGgUAMIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAQAAoIIKbjCCBTMw 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