From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MLG2B-0001Gf-4V for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:32:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55ACAE0505; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3567EE0505 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.213] (74-92-132-138-WashingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [74.92.132.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926C06570C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections From: Ferris McCormick To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4A47F8E3.8070703@gmail.com> References: <1246229600.3656.5@NeddySeagoon> <4A47F8E3.8070703@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-r+bz6OpCVEpG3lF6yrhy" Organization: gentoo developer Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:32:26 +0000 Message-Id: <1246278746.31661.248.camel@liasis.inforead.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 X-Archives-Salt: 4196a790-50f0-4887-ae20-1f30605d10be X-Archives-Hash: edd29e5cffd4b892c9bad707cec4fec9 --=-r+bz6OpCVEpG3lF6yrhy Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 18:12 -0500, Dale wrote: > Roy Bamford wrote: > > > > > > You agree that common sense can't be used and admit that a corner case > > exists that would in effect have the trustees pointing out to the > > council that they had made an error of judgement and need to reverse a > > decision that the last meeting made. I would prefer never to have to go > > there. > > > > I do not agree that an all proxy council meeting shows that the council > > does not take its responsibilities very seriously, rather that real > > life has hit everyone at the same time and they have appointed > > proxies. GLEP39 does not even set a limit on the maximum number of > > council members who may be proxied at any single meeting. =20 > > > > As I have already said, I'm against the idea of proxies altogether. > > We should amend glep39 to remove proxies and ensure that council > > members are drawn from the developer community. Of course, that > > does not eliminate the possibility of the trustees pointing out to the > > council that they need to reverse a decision but it does ensure that > > decisions are made only by council members who are Gentoo developers. =20 > > >=20 > I'm just picking a random message so no fingers being pointed here. >=20 > As a long time Gentoo user, I have to ask. Why is that EVERYONE on the > council must be there or have someone there to represent them? Would > Gentoo come to a end if one person or even two people were not present?=20 >=20 All that's required is a quorum (4 out of 7) to hold a meeting. > I do agree that if a proxy is going to be used, they should be a > developer. If it is not that way now, it should be changed. I been > using Gentoo for years and wouldn't even consider serving as a proxy. I > would certainly not want to be a tie breaker on a vote. >=20 > As a American that sees his own country's government getting out of > control, never count on common sense. Elected people rarely have any.=20 > If they do during the election, it disappears after taking their > position. I think the vast majority of people here have seen that over > the years. >=20 > My $0.02 worth. >=20 > Dale >=20 > :-) :-)=20 Regards, Ferris --=20 Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees) --=-r+bz6OpCVEpG3lF6yrhy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkpItFoACgkQQa6M3+I///eclwCdGeMrwmLk8/YPvV/b1yDVN06T ksIAnRcxj+U0ukNvEhL8SlphhfRSpU5z =4Vpv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-r+bz6OpCVEpG3lF6yrhy--