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From: "Tiziano Müller" <dev-zero@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [packagekit] Inviting you to project "PackageMap"
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:08:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1245240506.6788.5.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A3225F0.6070800@hartwork.org>


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Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 11:54 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Pipping:
> Richard Hughes wrote:
> > I'm slightly worried about it being called a service. Is it going to
> > be a new process that just does the mapping or is this a bad choice of
> > words? If it is a new process then I'm not sure such a thing will
> > catch on.
> 
> I'm not yet sure about how a mapper will keep it's data
> fresh as the use of it is dependent on that.
> Ignore my "service" for now.
> 
> 
> > I'm also worried that a package manager has to read in and parse
> > thousands of small files.
> 
> While you mention "package manager" - with the current concept
> the data will not be precise enough for use with a package manager.
> 
> 
> > Why did you decide to write each project as
> > a single xml file?
> 
>  - The other 99% of the database stay valid XML if a single
>    file is invalid
> 
>  - To better fit the version controlled environment
> 
> 
> > Parsing and reading 10,000 files (in multiple directories) might take
> > a few seconds, and would have to be copied into memory (few Mb) to
> > query quickly.
> 
> Correct.
> 
> 
> > Which has to be invalidated if any of the files or
> > directories change. Why didn't you just put them in a sqlite database
> > that can be queried in a few ms, without dragging in an xml parser?
> > Also 10,000 files take up way more space (and takes longer to install
> > and update) than a single database file.
> 
> I like your idea about sqlite.  Maybe keeping the data to edit XML
> and query and sqlite export snapshot is something to try.
Why not use a XML database like dbxml?
Maybe you could just specify the XML files as storage and then dbxml
would do the rest.


> 
> 
> > XML might be
> > useful for storing the data, but not for querying.
> 
> Good point.

Using XPath and XQuery you can do queries on XML as well.

Cheers,
Tiziano

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Tiziano Müller
Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member
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  Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-17 12:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12  7:42 [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap" Sebastian Pipping
     [not found] ` <15e53e180906120130md68cd94nba61fa5560c73eb4@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-12  9:54   ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [packagekit] " Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-17 12:08     ` Tiziano Müller [this message]
2009-06-12 13:00   ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-06-13  3:55     ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-07-11 21:38       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2009-06-12 18:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Petteri Räty
2009-06-12 21:43   ` [packagekit] " Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-13 15:53     ` Petteri Räty
2009-06-13 19:03       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-13 19:16         ` Petteri Räty
2009-06-15 13:52         ` Robert Buchholz
2009-06-15 17:04           ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-15 18:24             ` Robert Buchholz
2009-06-15 19:13               ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-15 20:27                 ` Petteri Räty
2009-06-17  0:34                   ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-17  9:37                     ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-06-18  0:09                       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-18  9:07                         ` Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
2009-06-19 18:53                           ` Sebastian Pipping
     [not found]                         ` <1245295820.11471.223.camel@chianamo.mine.nu>
2009-06-18 22:33                           ` Sebastian Pipping
     [not found]                             ` <1245382383.14805.281.camel@chianamo.mine.nu>
2009-06-19 17:36                               ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-19 21:47                                 ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-20 13:16                     ` Petteri Räty
2009-06-20 17:28                       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-07-14 16:49                       ` Sebastian Pipping
2009-07-20  2:03                         ` [GLEP] CPE names in metadata (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap") Sebastian Pipping
2009-06-15 21:27                 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: [packagekit] Inviting you to project "PackageMap" Christian Faulhammer

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