[gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2

[gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2

[Roy Bamford]

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

I've spent some time reading all of this years emails on GLEP55 and 
added a few lines to version 1.5 which is the last offical version.

The HTML version (not with the GLEP style sheet) is at 
http://xrl.us/bevrnb (my devspace)
Its not ready to go to council as it still needs additional content 
which I don't have the background to contribuite. My role in this 
version of GLEP 55 has been interpretation and editorial.

I'm looking for three elements to add.

1. A description of the steps the PM needs to extract the EAPI in 
ebuilds today, if its any more than sourcing the ebuild.

2. Benchmarks and supporting code for EAPI extraction for EAPI in the 
filename.

3. Benchmarks and supporting code for EAPI extraction for EAPI in the 
ebuild.

Benchmarks for valid and invalid cache need to be supplied so we have 
both the user and developer views of performace. 

I expect items 2 and 3 to be provided by the proponents of these two 
competing options and critically examined for validity by the 
competitors.

When the above data is available, I'll update the document as it needs 
to contain all of the evidence to allow council to reach a decision 
without reading the ml. 

Reply with corrections and factual additions with supporting evidence 
only please. The role of the GLEP is to present the evidence and make a 
reccomendation. Its councils job to make any subjective assessments 
having read the GLEP.

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Regards,

Roy Bamford
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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2

[Michael Haubenwallner]

On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 23:31 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:

> I've spent some time reading all of this years emails on GLEP55 and 
> added a few lines to version 1.5 which is the last offical version.

Is there a specific reason not to include the "inherit eapi"[1][2]
thing?

IMHO this would fit best in "Abstract Solution (Part 1)" somehow like:

        -There are two potential solutions to this part of the problem,
        +There are three potential solutions to this part of the
        problem,
                
            * wait for old package managers to fall into disuse
            * 'blind' old package managers to ebuilds using later
        constructs
        +   * use "inherit" to have old package managers almost silently
        +     ignore unsupported ebuilds

[1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_b2656aca1d124658b3df73d3d6804b7e.xml
[2] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_348f84690f03e597fb14d6602337c45f.xml

Thanks!

/haubi/
-- 
Michael Haubenwallner
Gentoo on a different level

Re:[gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2

[Ferris McCormick]

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> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:31:47 +0100
> From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@gentoo.org>
> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2
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> Ladies and Gentlemen,
> 
> I've spent some time reading all of this years emails on GLEP55 and 
> added a few lines to version 1.5 which is the last offical version.
> 
> The HTML version (not with the GLEP style sheet) is at 
> http://xrl.us/bevrnb (my devspace)
> Its not ready to go to council as it still needs additional content 
> which I don't have the background to contribuite. My role in this 
> version of GLEP 55 has been interpretation and editorial.
> 

Very small point.  There is a difference between "EAPI in the file name
extension" and just "EAPI in the file name".  I think the intent here is
the latter, but it speaks of them interchangeably it seems.

Regards,
Ferris
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Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 55 Version 2

[Roy Bamford]

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On 2009.06.08 16:48, Ferris McCormick wrote:
[snip]

> Very small point.  There is a difference between "EAPI in the file
> name
> extension" and just "EAPI in the file name".  I think the intent here
> is
> the latter, but it speaks of them interchangeably it seems.
> 
> Regards,
> Ferris
> -- 
> Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) <fmccor@gentoo.org>
> Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees)
> 
Ferris,

Its not a small point, it makes quite a difference.  In most places the 
glep should talk about "EAPI in the file name", not "EAPI in the file 
name extension".

dev-zero got to me first on that and I need to update the glep.

- -- 
Regards,

Roy Bamford
(NeddySeagoon) a member of
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