From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-36398-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MBUN7-0003my-2T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:49:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 940B8E039C; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.tmcs.ch (113.245.131.213.static.inetbone.net [213.131.245.113]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F20E039C for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (75-48.3-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.3.48.75]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.tmcs.ch (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9CD4015E4A44 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:49:42 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Jun 11th, 2009 Council Meeting Format From: Tiziano =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= <dev-zero@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4A24BE43.4020507@trelane.net> References: <eafa4c130906012115h73e9769ar89888e03d2bb54c0@mail.gmail.com> <4A24BE43.4020507@trelane.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-maNDp4ehR1px3WbUsrl6" Organization: Gentoo Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:49:42 +0200 Message-Id: <1243950582.11496.9.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.2 X-Archives-Salt: 7ff69123-9519-4cd2-99ab-1e25d5cb64a8 X-Archives-Hash: 1585ea809fde65083b4aa8469032230a --=-maNDp4ehR1px3WbUsrl6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Dienstag, den 02.06.2009, 01:53 -0400 schrieb Andrew D Kirch: > Doug Goldstein wrote: > > All, > > > > The current council meetings have gotten completely out of hand for > > weeks meetings have become nothing more then a continuation of the > > senseless bicker-fest that have become the e-mail threads on GLEP54, > > GLEP55, and EAPI-3 without any real progress or sense coming of them. > > It's taken me a little bit to step up and put a stop to it but I fully > > intend on putting a stop to it. The point of the council meetings is > > to bring up a topic and decide on its merits whether it should be > > brought into the Gentoo Project or not. I quote from the first line of > > the Gentoo Council website: > I would strongly advice that EAPI-3 and GLEP's 54/55 be dropped at least > for the time being (at a minimum 90 days). The argument has left any > trappings of merit or rational behind, and has replaced them with > religion. As this is now a dogmatic issue a resolution cannot be > reached at this time. > > > > We have all collectively failed the Gentoo Project since we have not > > been doing this for the past several weeks. >=20 > Vigorous debate fails no one. Religious zealotry however fails us all.=20 > In recognizing that this is what's happening iwth EAPI-3, and GLEP's > 54/55 is the first step towards moving on to a new and fair debate on > these issues down the road. Why are you mentioning EAPI-3 here? That topic got closed two meetings ago. --=20 Tiziano M=C3=BCller Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member Areas of responsibility: Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor E-Mail : dev-zero@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : F327 283A E769 2E36 18D5 4DE2 1B05 6A63 AE9C 1E30 --=-maNDp4ehR1px3WbUsrl6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) iEQEABECAAYFAkolLfYACgkQGwVqY66cHjCIMwCY/n7AFu4yGAUwmzLmG3OS9a13 WgCWMXC4lRtAONCs43+6T8qgk3/fJg== =3NMp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-maNDp4ehR1px3WbUsrl6--