From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-36383-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1MBGjq-0000Vc-AX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:16:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FF41E02B6; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.44]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45987E02B6 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:16:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at estpak.ee Received: from Relayhost2.neti.ee (Relayhost2 [88.196.174.142]) by MXR-8.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31603172298 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 2 Jun 2009 02:16:14 +0300 (EEST) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted From: Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <pan.2009.05.20.00.55.36@cox.net> References: <1242261133.23088.82.camel@localhost> <4A0B738F.3030000@allenjb.me.uk> <4A0C2E6B.1040107@gentoo.org> <200905150943.57830.bangert@gentoo.org> <4A0D4317.7040702@gentoo.org> <1242777068.30374.30.camel@localhost> <pan.2009.05.20.00.55.36@cox.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-2wKFM/QGihl0ubeJbe5V" Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 02:17:29 +0300 Message-Id: <1243898249.21933.22.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 X-Archives-Salt: 7aec6d45-b680-4363-9f49-3999e0c555f7 X-Archives-Hash: 1c13fe9be0cb13247b80350a31704cab --=-2wKFM/QGihl0ubeJbe5V Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On K, 2009-05-20 at 00:55 +0000, Duncan wrote: > Mart Raudsepp <leio@gentoo.org> posted > 1242777068.30374.30.camel@localhost, excerpted below, on Wed, 20 May 200= 9 > 02:51:08 +0300: >=20 > > It is about getting popular packages (based on various metrics) into th= e > > official tree for easy access and with known quality. >=20 > Perhaps some concrete examples of packages you have in mind might be=20 > useful. A big part of the thing is to get things better qualified in popularity. Encouraging users on maintainer-wanted bugs (automatically adding a link to a describing page if assignee=3Dmaintainer-wanted?) to leave their votes appropriately, automated methods to sort bugs based on comment and activity, comparing with popularity metrics in other distributions that have something like the not-really-existing yet gentoo-stats, perhaps working on gentoo-stats, etc etc. > I list in the footnote[1] a couple I originally merged from=20 > sunrise, that are now in-tree. I that the type of package you had in=20 > mind? What /about/ sunrise packages? Will you be working with them to=20 > bring "popular" packages from there in-tree too? >=20 > Of course in your case the ebuilds aren't in the tree yet, but bug=20 > numbers for apps you believe fit the "popular" description might be=20 > useful. "Popular packages" is a nebulous enough term on its own, that=20 > some examples might help. These metrics should be worked out by an upcoming team then, not ignoring common sense. But perhaps a few examples then: miro songbird moovida (previously known as Elisa Media Center) paperbox shutter I see many of the ones I was able to list seem to be either complex deptree packages that no-one has been motivated enough yet to push through (so hopefully once that hard work gets done once, a dedicated maintainer is found easily), and stuff that would be cool to use once it's easily available and found, but not something people very much depend on to care that much alone for themselves, hence a team finding such packages at first could be useful. > Also, an example or two of what you might consider a borderline case,=20 > that you might consider adding if the load on the proposed project wasn't= =20 > too high already, but would reject if it was. Feel free to add comments=20 > or explanations on how you came to that conclusion, both for the popular=20 > and borderline examples, as well, if you think it necessary. >=20 > ..... >=20 > [1] I still use sys-apps/moreutils. >=20 > The other one was www-plugins/swfdec-mozilla and its dep media-libs- > swfdec, which I had some trouble with and eventually unmerged in favor of= =20 > a couple of youtube downloaders, since youtube was what I mainly used=20 > swfdec for anyway. --=20 Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: leio@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio --=-2wKFM/QGihl0ubeJbe5V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkokYYkACgkQkeYb6olFHJdl9wCgs4fyfdWU53UfVHESNACr32Bk nfwAoMVeaTdWDvr5x3GqCzZ9tlEauLyK =Kx3k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-2wKFM/QGihl0ubeJbe5V--