This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd & 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev list to see. For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ Following is the preliminary meeting agenda. First we'll have to fill the empty spot. After a short upgrade on EAPI-3 implementation we will discuss the removal of old eclasses, followed by our old friend GLEP 55. If we still have time we can dive into the topic of general EAPI development. Approval/voting of new council member replacing Donnie Berkholz --------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately Donnie resigned as a member of the council (for details please read his mail on the g-council ml). Next in line are ulm and ssuominen. EAPI 3: Short discussion of the progress ---------------------------------------- zmedico will provide an update on the progress of the implementation. Short discussion of problems and implementation decisions if needed. Removing old eclasses --------------------- Goal: Decide whether developers are allowed to remove eclasses. Problem: Upgrading using portage with a version before 2.1.4 will fail since portage always used eclasses from the tree instead of the ones from environment.bz2, even though the environment fail has been generated. Portage 2.1.4 got stabled over a year ago. Handling EAPI versioning in a forwards-compatible way ----------------------------------------------------- Goal: Discuss whether one of the alternatives given in GLEP 55 is appropriate to solve the problem. Decide which one should be chosen. Define EAPI development/deployment cycles ----------------------------------------- Goal: Start discussion about EAPI development/deployment. For example: Collect problems of eapi introductions in the past, like reverting ebuilds to former eapis to get them stable, not waiting for the pm support a certain eapi before requesting stable keywords for ebuilds using the new eapi, .... Collect problems of EAPI development like feature-freeze, late feature removals (due to implementation problems). Eventually develop a lightweight EAPI development model. Cheers, Tiziano -- Tiziano Müller Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member Areas of responsibility: Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor E-Mail : dev-zero@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : F327 283A E769 2E36 18D5 4DE2 1B05 6A63 AE9C 1E30