From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6Z8G-0001Em-DZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:54:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30CF7E04E1; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.44]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07347E04E1 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MXR-4.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846ED25D761 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:54:02 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Relay4.estpak.ee Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (MXR-4.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FoolJlKuLn5p for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:54:02 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Relayhost1.neti.ee (Relayhost1 [88.196.174.141]) by MXR-4.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2101725D739 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:54:02 +0300 (EEST) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted From: Mart Raudsepp To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4A0C2FAB.2070603@gentoo.org> References: <1242261133.23088.82.camel@localhost> <200905141402.40992.hwoarang@gentoo.org> <1242311038.22615.17.camel@localhost> <4A0C2FAB.2070603@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-YQ0O0vSgrzD8ss7oHgof" Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:54:23 +0300 Message-Id: <1242777263.30374.34.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 X-Archives-Salt: 33467846-9314-4f5a-9e8b-1e7f7906675a X-Archives-Hash: eb179e5ab0b913907eb02f4ad7ca14a3 --=-YQ0O0vSgrzD8ss7oHgof Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:50 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > >=20 > > Liking and using the package yourself shouldn't be a prerequisite for a > > package getting to be in-tree by the maintainer-wanted team.=20 >=20 > How about actually maintaining the package? Yes, actually maintaining the package would be a standard for the project. > For example, user contributes ebuild for foo-1.0. I don't use it or=20 > like it, but I go ahead and throw it into portage. User logs bug that=20 > foo-1.0 wipes out random files from time to time. Nobody looks at said=20 > bug since nobody owns foo, and bug starts getting 3000 "me-too!"=20 > comments. The maintainer-wanted team owns that foo package then, which is why having a different mail alias than the existing one for "new package requests that aren't in gentoo tree yet" would be a good idea. > Some charitable developer takes a look and the problem isn't=20 > obvious and offers to just mask the package. Now 3000 people running=20 > foo are upset for it being de-supported (when it wasn't supported in the=20 > first place). >=20 > Wouldn't it make more sense for people who like the foo-1.0 ebuild to=20 > just stick it in their own ebuild or an overlay and be on their own=20 > (since they're really on their own either way)? Or to move it to=20 > sunrise or some other place where it might actually get some level of=20 > support? I am proposing to have it in the official tree and not having such a situation happen at all by random dev adding it to tree without the intention to maintain it. > If Gentoo is going to distribute an ebuild Gentoo should=20 > Do-It-Right(TM). Why put our name on something we don't really want to=20 > care for? The intention would be to Do-It-Right(TM). --=20 Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: leio@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio --=-YQ0O0vSgrzD8ss7oHgof Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkoTRq8ACgkQkeYb6olFHJduMgCeP/FEUMGXOr6Ul0pDfntoqS1I +J0AoLi70NajgAJT+UUg4wnqUKvn3lqr =Eza8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-YQ0O0vSgrzD8ss7oHgof--