From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M6Ywb-0007jU-OP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:42:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AABCE0499; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee (smtp-out.neti.ee [194.126.126.44]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B43E0499 for ; Tue, 19 May 2009 23:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by MXR-13.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E7D57B7C for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:41:59 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at !change-mydomain-variable!.example.com Received: from smtp-out.neti.ee ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (MXR-1.estpak.ee [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0AIpTuw+olRR for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:41:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: from Relayhost1.neti.ee (Relayhost1 [88.196.174.141]) by MXR-13.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4685841B for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 02:41:58 +0300 (EEST) X-SMTP-Auth-NETI-Businesmail: no Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted From: Mart Raudsepp To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20090517120849.3115ce38@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> References: <1242261133.23088.82.camel@localhost> <20090517120849.3115ce38@halo.dirtyepic.sk.ca> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-7jp9hdv97/xgHvl579ru" Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 02:42:19 +0300 Message-Id: <1242776539.30374.23.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 X-Archives-Salt: ade2718e-4cb9-41cc-9325-83e874c80f42 X-Archives-Hash: 2deb7c5b3d7d0e9a0122345a7061d01a --=-7jp9hdv97/xgHvl579ru Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 12:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2009 03:32:12 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: >=20 > > Project maintainer-wanted > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > >=20 > > Abstract: > > There are currently quite some package requests (over 3000) languishing > > on bugzilla waiting for a developer or team to get interested and > > package it in the official gentoo-x86 portage tree. However in quite > > some cases that might not happen for quite a while even with very > > popular packages desired by users. The purpose of the maintainer-wanted > > project is to get as many of such packages to the official tree as > > possible as a stopgap solution. >=20 > Actually, I'm working on a "get the crap out of the tree" project that is > pretty much the exact opposite of this. ;) I don't think it opposes it much, maybe only 2-5% of maintainer-needed packages. Popular packages aren't crap. Their packaging ease might be, but obviously people want to use those if they are popular, hence we can't dub them really "crap". We could say those packages are "crap" that get building bugs filed by tinderbox runs from Patrick, Diego and other such people, while no-one else has cared. The maintainer-wanted project would not be interested in any such packages. Those are obviously dead applications/libraries that are in no way popular and very beneficial to carry in the official tree. > But, things I like: >=20 > - metrics for package popularity (can we do gentoo-stats already?) Yeah, that'd be cool. Some other metrics ideas I brought out that can be used for this projects purposes while there is no gentoo-stats. > - encouraging teams and maintainers to take an interest in unmaintained > packages It being a project/team making it more likely it doesn't degrade over time when there is no dedicated team maintaining this. Maybe we could make it so that when a package maintained by someone specific (individual or team) that was taken over from maintainer-wanted would drop back to maintainer-wanted team instead of maintainer-needed herd, as the latter currently has technically no members. > - keeping track of maintainer-wanted/needed packages through categorizati= on, > etc. > - proxy-maintainers >=20 > These things I think would benefit both projects, as well as several othe= rs. >=20 > I would actually rather see our overall package count dropping than growi= ng, > but if we're adding quality, maintained stuff and tossing out the garbage= then > I guess that's an improvement too. Indeed. --=20 Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: leio@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio --=-7jp9hdv97/xgHvl579ru Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.8 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkoTQ9sACgkQkeYb6olFHJd9aACfTHZ6jKhw/1d1gUBvK6lvi/zB TAIAoJ+vWVDsMPSci+dF5C1HQydolUXn =VF+o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-7jp9hdv97/xgHvl579ru--